Its not the halves its your discipline, absolutely shocking

I don't know where to start. Our halves aren't the only issue.



I am amazed we are only 12 points down.

We are in big trouble this season. The two games we won we were very lucky indeed. Our senior players are ill-disciplined, un-interested, are throwing the ball like a group of strangers and our kicking game and distribution is poor. To top that our fowards coming away from our line are doing well to get to the forty metre line on the last.



We are in desperate trouble, with a relegation dogfight at the end of the season the expected bottom third clubs are all putting decent wins in every other game, so it's going to be hard to pull away from them in this form.



Dare I say it......it's starting to feel like 2006 all over again?

It's alright though because Gelling will make 200m and Farrell 40 tackles. Both garbage consistently this season.

We have no good players. We are very very average

sever change needed at our club. lost for words at how bad that was. I think we have some great players but for some reason they are not playing this this coach. time for change.

I will say it again. When you allow quality to leave year on year and you only replace with youth then at one point it all goes downhill.

Leeds was rubbish as well. Very poor quality game. Very very scrappy.

I agree. Wigan of last year would have won that game with a few to spare.

Wane's limitations as a head coach are starting to be massively exposed!

Gelling needs to get in the backrow and add some size to our powderpuff pack. Farrell for me could do with a big offer from Salford. Watching Greenwood and Currie for their respective teams makes me very envious, neither are from Wigan though so Wane probably doesn't rate them.



How many times were we tackled with the ball on the last tackle? How many times did we get in good positions and blow it because we had nobody taking control. Our halves both run sideways, on the odd occasion Williams ran straight he looked ok but he doesn't do it nearly enough.



Despite being garbage we could have won that gave with a bit of craft. We have no craft.

I 100% agree!



We all want a 17 full of home grown players but in real life you've got to be very lucky to get a group to come thru.



Saints tried it when we stopped bringing quality players in and went with youth like Tyrer, foster, ashurst, Dixon etc etc and we even tried two Young halved in lomax and Gaskell.



It didn't turn around until Brown brought in the likes of Amor, walsh, Mose, turner, walmsley, burns, Vea to add to the likes of Lomax, Makinson, Percival, Thompson, Richards, Savelio.



The balance has to be right!