and me, forwards only turned up in the 2nd half. lockers at 9...again....Wane wake up! our kicking games was awful, ever when in a good position, how many repeat sets, how many kicks on 5th where we actually created pressure!



god help us next year.........

The 'fault' doesnt lay with Jack Murphy for the mistakes he made tonight.

For me, it was just unbelievable that Waney would drop an inexperienced kid into such a pivotal position in such a crucial game!

Utterly baffling, CRAZY decision.



Murphy looks to have real potential, and i just worry that his confidence will be absolutely shattered by what happened tonight.

For mine, Pat should have been slotted into FB with Sam out. Not even a decision to be made really.



Wasnt Murphy's inexperience that cost us our GF place...........In reality it was Shaun Wanes.

The only thing the poster missed out was Sinfield. That was probably one of the best tacitcal kicking displays I have ever seen. It was utterly sublime. I was baffled by his ability to place the ball anywhere he wanted at points tonight.

To blame Murphy would just be ridiculous. He did remarkably well considering he got injured about 5 minutes in and was struggling throughout most of the game.



Those kicks from Sinfield were excellent and every single fullback in the league would have found them difficult to deal with. It's alright saying Richards could have played fullback but he would have struggled with those kicks too. It's great being tall and being able to catch when challenged but when the ball is moving all over the place when kicked there's not much you can do but hope you get in the right place.



The biggest mistake was not closing Sinfield down and allowing him to put kicks like that up with ease. Wire showed how important it is to close him down but the defence didn't have the intensity and failed to put him under pressure.



Murphy was probably the safest pair of hands we could have had at fullback tonight, sometimes you've just go to credit excellent kicking and bemoan poor pressuring.

You are right and he can bounce back, Darren Lockyer in his first game for Australia at fullback was far worse than Murphy was v Leeds.

well that rules tomkins out then

I am disgusted that some Wigan fans are making Murphy the scapegoat on only his 2nd appearance. We have some great fans but I really do think we have some of the worst as well. Once again we lost it in the forwards, had an awful kicking game and had little/no direction from half back. For some reason we also played a different style than what we played all year and our centres barely touched the ball. Its much easier to blame a young inexperienced kid though I suppose.

Murphy's couple of dropped catches weren't good and really should have been collected. Having said that, they didn't cost Wigan the game. They may have given a breather to Leeds and taken momentum from the home team but what cost the league leaders the game was some good tactics (and execution) by Leeds and Wigan's inability to burst through a paper bag.



Thought the forwards were poor (where were O'Loughlin and Hock?) and when there was a bit of speed and potential to take control in the second half, sometimes the wrong option was chosen. Just one of those nights.

I'd blame the coach for selecting him, he may well be a future star but this wasn't a game for throwing in a young inexperienced player and certainly not at full back.



Pat Richards could have gone to No1 with Thornley or Gelling coming onto the wing, you could even have put Charnley at the back.



Young Murphy was solid for the most part and looked likely to break the line on a few occasions, he wasn't anywhere near to blame for spilling a bomb, that's happened to the best of them.

Bingo, I said before the game Murphy was between a rock and a hard place making his second appearance in this game, and I've said all year that we lack depth at 1, 6, 7 and 9 because Wane was unwilling to play Murphy, Powell and Logan even though there were plenty games where we hammered the opposition when we could have given these lads a run

Actually he is to blame for spilling the bomb. The point is that despite it resulting (in a roundabut way) in two points for the opposition which won the game, the player shouldn't be lambasted....as he is being. Its the fruits of the preceding seventy odd minutes that left Wigan in a vulnerable position and some players in the team haven't done what they claim they can do (play rugby to a good standard) for long periods of that game.



Hopefully the player will recover from the ensuing week's critique and fulfil his (clearly visible) potential.

I worded that poorly, I meant he wasn't to blame for the loss jüst because he dropped that bomb"