4 that would make your 1st choice 17? Presumably you're not counting Thornley and Manfredi? Yes he kept Charnley out for a few weeks but if he was fit tomorrow would Charnley be dropped?



Who else is there?



If you're counting anyone who is absent then we have more than 5.

Does it really matter who is out? As one door closes one opens, it all creates competition for places and no matter who takes to the field its a derby and it will be competitive. I'd rather have a few out in all honesty.

Manfredi was Super Leagues top try scorer until his injury so he would probably have been picked. On form until the last two games Thornley would certainly have been in before Sarginson. Gelling and Clubb would also be in the side.

So if Manfredi and Thornley were fit tomorrow you think they'd drop Charnley and Sarginson?



Highly doubtful.

I agree mate. I was just responding to someone who said you had 4 out and couldn't think who they were. Realistically it's 2.

If they were playing to the form that they were in before their injuries, probably yes, but that's the great unknown as they may not come back in that form. Either way it's irrelevant, you play with what you've got.

I personally have no problem at al in acknowledging that saints a have five or six first teamers missing and that we have two arguably three missing.

Don't see what all the fuss is about. Saints are at home so that should count for something and we are either moderately hot or freezing in terms of form/consistency therefore, as per virtually all saints and Wigan matches either team can win.

Again I do accept that saints have key players out in fact it would be ludicrous to argue otherwise. Does that mean they will be any less motivated or a very difficult team to beat? Absolutely not.

If saints lose then I'm sure if they perform well and compete the majority of their fans will be happy. If Wigan lose I just hope we at least compete and put up a good show in terms of effort and expansive play.

Let the best team win and hopefully the officials let the game flow.

Thornley has had form? I must have blinked





Can't wait for the game, should be another cracker hopefully

Thornley full fit is a better defender than Sarginson so that's a 50/50 call for me.



Manfredi if fit would play instead of Charnley. Josh this season has been a bit under par compared to previous years and Manfredi was our best winger this season until Burgess's form improved. Real good situation to be tbh 3 good wingers. If Josh is performing to his standard of the last 2-3 years then he would be in the team but on this season Manfredi is our most improved player.



Thornley i do think he will not play for us again we will cut our loses his injuries list it too long the last 2 years.

Wane's love child. Will play again even if he has to do it on crutches.

You are Anthony Gelling and I claim my five pounds

Exactly. Though I would point out to Saints fans that it's not really on to claim Lomax as a true loss when you've signed someone to replace him. Similarly, we can't claim that the loss of Manfredi and Thornley is too much of a blow, can we? Gelling being out in the backs and Clubb in the pack are our real losses IMO.