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| Quote wigan pie man="wigan pie man"so let Fev play 5 overseas players then.
have you got 5?'"
Thats the whole point bonehead, WERE NOT ALLOWED 5
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| Quote Fevxr2i="Fevxr2i"Gingdong - dont you think our players have earned the right to play against the best? We managed to beat cas and its at least 3 overseas players
If the best is a team full of overseas players then so be it
Personally i hope you bring as many overseas players as possible it will be an honour to potentially see so many good players gracing our pitch
Id feel a tinge of disappointment if some players listed above were rested although still expecting a quality team regardless'"
No i think all teams should play to the same rules in the same cup competition
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| Quote NickyKiss="NickyKiss"The day the cup needs to start giving handicaps, splitting in to a two tier comp or brings in a rule where overseas players are limited is the day we should just knock it on the head all together. The reality is it's tough work for these championship clubs to compete and shocks will only ever come from the top 2 or 3 clubs but rather that then watering it down or bringing in betting coupon style handicaps.
If I were a Featherstone fan or a Barrow fan or a north Wales crusaders fan etc I'd be made up drawing a big club. Would I think we were going to win the game? Probably not but it brings exposure to my club and brings in income. Do we think sky would touch these cup ties if we started to ban some of the best and most exciting players playing in them?
I'd just be looking forward mainly to watching players like Sam Tomkins, Thomas Leuluai, Sean O'Loughlin, Jeff Lima etc in the flesh because they're top quality and Fev can improve by playing against them.'"
Its already handicapped your allowed 5 overseas players and us 1
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| And CC teams budget has been cut that much this year we rely on DR players, then we can't play them.
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| Quote Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy="Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy"No need, Sam will probably win it on his own.'"
Heroic Fev give mighty Wigan a scare
Featherstone 24 - 36 Wigan
by Phil WalkInSonItsaShop
Wigan were runaway favourites for this one but heroic Featherstone gave their Super league opponents one mighty scare before the Warriors could get their name in the hat for the next round of the Challenge Cup.
Only a second-half 36-point comeback secured the win for the Warriors, who fielded only Sam Tomkins to make the game fairer for their lower league opposition.
Tomkins said: "I want to apologise to the Wigan fans for the first half. But once my team coach was fixed and I was able to get off the motorway and to the stadium for the second half things were looking up."
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| Quote gingdong="gingdong"No i think all teams should play to the same rules in the same cup competition'"
In that case, why don't we also make a rule only allowing SL teams to field a team of the same value to their Championship opponents? Forget the nationality issue. If Wigan can't field Hock, Tomkins, Mossop, Farrell etc, then you'll have a real chance.
In fact, why don't we go the whole hog and prevent the SL side from training in their own expensively-built faciltiies in the weeks leading up to the game? Why don't we make them train on a local school pitch?
Why don't we also deprive them of all SL-standard training staff, including head-coach, conditioner, etc?
Why don't we pour twenty pints of ale down their gullets the night before, and make them eat fish and chips and MacDonalds all week? Then we'll have a really, really level playing field.
Do you really want to go on with this?
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| Quote gingdong="gingdong"No i think all teams should play to the same rules in the same cup competition'"
I didn't see you lot offering not to play your full time players and ex SL players against Hunslet Old Boys when you were quite happy to put 86 past them.
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| So... Fev play in a league which has a different overseas player rule from the SL and some of their fans want to impose that rule on Wigan as a SL team...?
Does that mean we have to cut our players' pay the week before the game down to what we would pay them if they were subject to the SC that applies to Fev?
Nonsense.
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| Quote Big Man="Big Man"I didn't see you lot offering not to play your full time players and ex SL players against Hunslet Old Boys when you were quite happy to put 86 past them.'"
Excellent point.
If they were playing amateurs then presumably Featherstone's players didn't get a match fee, salary that week or other payment for their services - that would be fair. 
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| Quote Big Man="Big Man"I didn't see you lot offering not to play your full time players and ex SL players against Hunslet Old Boys when you were quite happy to put 86 past them.'"
But they played the game UNDER THE SAME RULES.
Quote Big Man="Cruncher"Quote Big Man="gingdong"No i think all teams should play to the same rules in the same cup competition'"
In that case, why don't we also make a rule only allowing SL teams to field a team of the same value to their Championship opponents? Forget the nationality issue. If Wigan can't field Hock, Tomkins, Mossop, Farrell etc, then you'll have a real chance.
In fact, why don't we go the whole hog and prevent the SL side from training in their own expensively-built faciltiies in the weeks leading up to the game? Why don't we make them train on a local school pitch?
Why don't we also deprive them of all SL-standard training staff, including head-coach, conditioner, etc?
Why don't we pour twenty pints of ale down their gullets the night before, and make them eat fish and chips and MacDonalds all week? Then we'll have a really, really level playing field.
Do you really want to go on with this?'"
Because none of this is the point people are making.
Because it is a legitimate point people are making, the only argument people can find is to be facetious.
Make a proper argument against it and behave like an adult or don't bother or you will carry on making yourself look stupid.
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| Quote Cruncher="Cruncher"In that case, why don't we also make a rule only allowing SL teams to field a team of the same value to their Championship opponents? Forget the nationality issue. If Wigan can't field Hock, Tomkins, Mossop, Farrell etc, then you'll have a real chance.
In fact, why don't we go the whole hog and prevent the SL side from training in their own expensively-built faciltiies in the weeks leading up to the game? Why don't we make them train on a local school pitch?
Why don't we also deprive them of all SL-standard training staff, including head-coach, conditioner, etc?
Why don't we pour twenty pints of ale down their gullets the night before, and make them eat fish and chips and MacDonalds all week? Then we'll have a really, really level playing field.
Do you really want to go on with this?'"
No just the same rules on overseas players, you already have all the advantages under the sun do you want us to play with 1 arm tied behind our backs as well. Were allowed 1 you 5 its plain wrong
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| Quote gingdong="gingdong"No just the same rules on overseas players, you already have all the advantages under the sun do you want us to play with 1 arm tied behind our backs as well. Were allowed 1 you 5 its plain wrong'"
The day your team withdraws all its professionals when you play a bunch of amateurs in the Cup is the day you can lecture us.
If you actually did that, I applaud you. If you didn't, the conversation appears to be over.
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