International RL.......................what an absoulute joke. Sums up yet again why I have absoulutely no interest in it what so ever.

Absolute farce. I wont cheer him at Wembley next month.



What message does this send to the likes of Widdop/Lomax, when they go to RU, the same people who are saying this is about winning the 4 Nations, will be the first to and moan about it.

I may get shot down for this, but I genuinly dont think anybody cares about international RL in this country anymore, the crowds for the four nations will prove that, just like the world cup game when we couldnt even sell out the DW against the Aussies, and once again RL will be shown up on national television when we get spanked by the Aussies in front of an 80% empty Wembley. I cant quite put my finger on why but I just dont care at all about the National team, im the same with Football. Things like this though, having kiwis, samoans etc etc dont make things any better, they just make our national team even more of a laughing stock and send out a terrible message to the likes of Lomax and Widdop.



The only way you will get any interest in the national game is if they bring back the GB tours every 4 years. Fact.

Everyone saying 'others do it so why dont we' Australia and NZ have Samoans/Tongans playing for them, which lets be honest, is just like a Welsh/Irish playing for us - that I can understand but players like Rangi and Manu is just ridiculous, can you imagine smoeone from europe playing for Australia? In any sport? This is embarrassing. Whats wrong with Widdop, Lomax, Brough, McGuire, Burrow etc? What sort of message does this send out to the young kids like Mellor, Powell, Gaskell, O'Brian etc coming through the ranks in SL?



I was considering going to wembley to watch England v Aus but this has made my mind up for me, im not wasting my money on the pathetic state that is England RL.

Got to be Ronald.



Ron to his new mates.

Ron Chase sounds more like a cricketer.

Think he needs to be called.



Noambitiontowintrophies Chase.



Staying at Cas says all about him. To be known as Trophyless to his new team mates.

And that attitude is why international RL is a joke (and i'm not just picking on you). Fans aren't happy when we're getting pummeled by the Aussies on a regular basis and now that we've got a decent team being put together they're not happy because it has one guy in who wants to play for England and qualifies through the rules (no matter how stupid you think they are). Lomax and Gaskell have bright futures, but why throw them right in the deep end at test match level? We just need to get behind the team.



If the Yawnion lot were in a similar situation do you think the fans would stop supporting them and flocking to Twickenham to watch them play Canada or some other bunch of jokers? No, they wouldn't. And we'll struggle to fill Leigh Sports Village for an international against Wales. Pathetic.

Tuilagi. Hape. Pietersen. Hargreaves.



Its just the way it is now. Can't say I'm that bothered about it.

What about the bonkers situation of Tonie Carroll? He played for both New Zealand and Australia against each other!! Brad Thorn is another except he did it in Yawnion/RL. Hardly like a Welsh mon playing for us.



Im going to Wembley to cheer on the boys and any self respecting RL fan that can afford to should be there aswell. I remember the good old days of standing side by side with Hull, Stains, Leeds fans at Old Trafford/Elland Road and all being as one, and as passionate as shouting for Wigan. It was superb!!!

Thats beside the point anyway, so wht if they do it? We are England, all our country is about is history and pride, having to play a Kiwi who isnt good enough for the national Kiwi side just es all over that. Just because they do it doesnt mean we should too. I'd rather watch players like Lomax and Widdop play their hearts out for us than a half d effort from Rangi Chase. Do you think if he got an offer to play for NZ after impressing for England he would even think about sticking with England? Not a chance.

There is a complete difference between the 4 people you have quoted though. The first two as far as I'm aware only qualify to play for England on the grounds of residency. Whereas Pietersen has an English mother and Hargeaves has an English father, so for them there is some connection to England.



IMO the 1st two mentioned should never play for England as in no way are linked but unfortunately these days in Sport they are the rules. I reckon though if we won the 4 Nations and the player in question (Chase) showed passion and won it for us, few would complain.