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| Quote Odem="Odem"PS - though youtube vids were not allowed on here unless they were taken by the person posting
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That's just an urban myth. Only if copyright infringement has occurred - i.e. the person who didn't own the copyright puts it on YT. But I'm sure you knew that already. 
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| Quote Odem="Odem"I have seen wire and saints fans walking from the train station to the ground singing! That is all that went on. No violence. Nobody having too much to drink. No trouble.
We walked through the centre of the town to the pub singing and went for a drink. Then went to the ground, when we got their we were singing. Let lads be lads. It is just a bit of singing in the street. We got off the train and were followed by many younger lads attaching themselves to the group, we don't mind. We were just singing, nobody got hurt, no trouble!
I saw many other things on that day which nobody has mentioned, lads blind drunk with red faces also seen in riversiders shirts occasionally, nobody ever mentions them!
That is all the group has to say on the issue really.... I can't be doing with another RL fans 18page thread so I will leave it there.
PS - though youtube vids were not allowed on here unless they were taken by the person posting
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Its not the singing...its the singing about the town being full of s**t, covering faces, and walking down the road with banners blocking the place off etc that I think most fans would object to as being intimidating/ offensive and inciting trouble. OK so a large proportion of fans will sing these songs on the ground, but singing them in the middle of the town, where there are people and families with kids who may just be out shopping, going about their general business, acting this way is wrong IMO. Further its only a matter of time before similar mindless morons from the opposing team start responding to this, we end up with a stand off, a few to many drinks and it all boils over.
Why not just walk to the ground (on the pavement), sing when you're at the stadium, and have a good time like the majority of fans, rather than acting like children and looking for trouble.
Also to compare this to the riversiders lads, who at all matches just go for a laugh, a crack, and a few drinks, and never cause any trouble is a joke. No one ever mentions them as they dont cause trouble, or even get close to it! Ok so many of them get blind drunk...so what! So they had red faces? How the hell is this comparable?!!!!....hardly walking through saints town centre, with scarfs over their faces, blocking roads and shouting offensive chants like some EDL march is it?!
How you can fail to see this as threatening, offensive, and inciting trouble is beyond me?! Your about one level down from the chavs in mcdonalds last week. Grow the hell up, watch the rugby like an adult, and then you might find that adults actually want to be friends with you, rather than having friends, as it seems by your videos, who are moronic teenagers!
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| Ps. Yes I have also seen groups of teenagers from st helens and wire walk through wigan like this. The last occasion after the wire game when 30-50 of them were singing and shouting abuse on the canal towpath at the families and normal fans who were just crossing the bridge to go home- people who may be elderly, or have children.
...I thought the same of them as I do when watching your videos...childish morons!
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You look like the pied piper of pre-pubescent p155 head plonkers.
That is absolutely cringe worthy.
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| Quote Odem="Odem"I have seen wire and saints fans walking from the train station to the ground singing! That is all that went on. No violence. Nobody having too much to drink. No trouble.
We walked through the centre of the town to the pub singing and went for a drink. Then went to the ground, when we got their we were singing. Let lads be lads. It is just a bit of singing in the street. We got off the train and were followed by many younger lads attaching themselves to the group, we don't mind. We were just singing, nobody got hurt, no trouble!
I saw many other things on that day which nobody has mentioned, lads blind drunk with red faces also seen in riversiders shirts occasionally, nobody ever mentions them!
That is all the group has to say on the issue really.... I can't be doing with another RL fans 18page thread so I will leave it there.
PS - though youtube vids were not allowed on here unless they were taken by the person posting
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Was it necessary to block the main road out of the bus station though? Could you not have walked on the pavement like every other person with a shred of intelligence?
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| Don't see much wrong tbh. What's all the fuss about?
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| Quote tugglesf78="tugglesf78"icon_lol.gif
You look like the pied piper of pre-pubescent p155 head plonkers.
That is absolutely cringe worthy.'"
Spot on... Just all looks rather childish, and just begging some other plonkers to start trouble......
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| Odem leading the march of the plonkers, where was your little pipe?
and Fosters?
The youth of today eh?
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| Cant see the fuss tbh, whats more cringeworthy is a load of middle aged men moaning about it on a forum!
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| Quote Broxy Music="Broxy Music"Cant see the fuss tbh, whats more cringeworthy is a load of middle aged men moaning about it on a forum!'"
Not everyone who thinks it's stupid and asking for trouble is middle aged.
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| Quote BackrowSaint="BackrowSaint"Not everyone who thinks it's stupid and asking for trouble is middle aged.'"
Spot on...im certainly not middle aged....the pied piper has just pm'd me trying to justify this and told me his age- im only slightly older than him, yet still have the maturity and intelligence to realise this is not the way to behave!
I love nothing more than going to games, having a skinful of beer, and singing songs both in the pub and on the ground, but I dont act like a Pill0ck when im doing it! Its just common sense and people who love our club not wanting us to be associated with this idiot element - It nothing to do with middle aged people condeming this.
As I said in my original post I think some of what the Brigantees have done have been brilliant and has really improved the match day experience, but things like this just make me cringe and also at the same time worry where its all heading.
This is not Wigan rugby and it is not rugby league!....Im proud to be associated with a sport and a team which in the substantial majority differentiates itself from many of the unsavoury elements society and other sports cannot....I do not want to see the club or game I love denigrate the way football has!
If these lads want to act like this then I would rather actually lose them as fans, and let them go and support latics where in all honesty they will be more likely to fit in.
Pied Piper - Ive Pm'd you back...I hope some of what ive said sinks in!
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