O'Loughlin and Pat were fantastic too, Tommy coming just behind that group for me.

McIlorum's dismissal has been brewing for quite a while now.....he went for a couple of big hits before he was sent off that were mistimed, and fortunate not to connect.



I did think that, although foolish, the red card was harsh....a word in Child's ear from off the field I wonder?

How can you say this? You obviously were at a numerical disadvantage, but you were pretty average (we were average too, but less average than yourselves....)

I'm also slightly concerned that passes aren't sticking, runs are being mistimed and we're lacking a little cohesion. Also our tackling technique seems to have gone out of the window. Too many players going high and getting bounced off. Wire would have put 40 on us tonight, if not more...

Idiotic post.

Disappointing result, but playing 12 against Stains (+ 2 refs & WTF are the touchies for) & only loosing by 8 in the end isn't that bad.

I thought we looked well knackered at the end though (and there weren't that many ear-to-ear grins lifting the hub-cap) & Sam had an indifferent game - where was his head tonight?



We mustn't turn off against the French & then a week to recharge could actually work out ok.



Do we get the ClubCall nonsense thingy or does it still depend on additional results? I still can't get my head round who goes where - it was bad enough with 6 - with 8 to figure out I start bleeding from the ears.

If we win against Catalans or Leeds next week, we get the club call.



If not, winner of Wire/St Helens does

I was surprised by Fielden, Thought he did very very well considering it was his first proper game in a long time. Looked hungry and in his second spell when he had a bit more ball made some good forward runs. If he can keep playing like that he would be well worth another contract. Dudson also looked good too.



Before this match I wasn't too hopeful for the playoffs, but even though we lost tonight It looked like a big improvement over what we have seen in the last couple of months and hopefully another week to work on things can put a lot right and get us through the next 2 games.



I am a bit disappointed because even with a man down we still came very close to beating an "average" saint's team, who seemed to score most of their tries off the back of penalty's or silly errors which was frustrating.



Good to see Pat converting well and Tommy looking fit. Thought Sam had another shocker though. Wasn't confident with him under the high ball at all. And due to saint's having the numbers he wasn't really as effective going forward.

I don't think I've ever been so unenthusiastic about a win over you lot to be honest - we were pretty poor throughout and but for your #9 you'dve won without breaking too much sweat again. Not looking forward to the playoffs one little bit...

I'm afraid you're deluding yourselves, that wasn't a good performance and neither was Saints struggling to beat 12 men. I dont think you will cope with Leeds on your current form.

Macca deserved his sending off, he has gone completely off the boil in the 2nd half of the season and in a strange way I am quite glad Matty Smith/Tommy Leuluai are likely to share the hooking duties for the next few weeks!

Blessing in disguise for Wigan the sending off, Tommy at 9, Smith 7 Finch 6. Far more creativity in attack. We are ridiculously predictable in attack, 2 dummy runners, Sam loops round the back. If that doesn't work we turn it back inside to Lima/Mossop. Poor, poor coaching. This isn't a kneejerk reaction to a loss, iv said it all season, weve finished top of what id say is the worst Super League ever.



On another note, Darrell Goulding, hang your head in shame, absoulutely ruined by Josh Jones for 80 minutes, it was cringeworthy to watch from a so called "international"



Warrington will win the Grand Final simply because they have the best coach, Wane is vastly overrated and has merely inherited a good side that Maguire did all the groundwork for.

Wigan had nothing to play for tonight and had 12 men for 65 mins. We had two players coming back from injury. Stains would have been very fired up as they DID have something to play for. I was heartened by a spririted performance, and the attack was looking more fluid, although of course we were a man short when attacking.



So sorry if i look for the positives.

Excellent post. Good to see that someone can see what is actually happening. Totally predictable in attack, called it exactly right and yes I agree, our lack of options in our set moves in attack is the coaches fault.

Spot on again with Goulding, I couldn't believe the uproar when he wasn't picked for England, he was no strike! Yes he can tackle (well usually) but never causes the defensive line any trouble, not a patch on Carmont, I'd go as far to say Hughes has more strike.



Agreed about Wire, TS has our number, can read our game like a book. If we get them in the final there's only 1 winner.

Sadly, looking at the new halfback pairing (despite the fact that I do like Smith) is on the decline, that with Wane in charge IMO will see a slow decline in the Wigan team. Sooner have Trent Robinson.