You know looking back, Wigan must have been seriously sh*t to be in a relegation battle? FFS what were those muppets doing in the management meetings? Thank god IL came along and straightened it out...

Maybe the Wigan scare was a sign of things to come? Still, we turned it around maybe the others can, but sugar daddies are few and far between

That is 1 club many are struggling and its always a tax bill from the government. Something has been going on at most SL clubs. And some are now getting burnt. we gave the Bulls almost half a million for Fielden. Its more than just Harris that put them under.

Thats the thing, is IL a sugar daddy? From my limited knowledge, (apart from the initial purchase) all funds spent have been earned through the club and not by IL dipping into his personal wealth



It would be a real shame to see Salford go bust but we simply cannot keep helping out clubs who fail to help themselves....

it does make you wonder what accounting wizardry has been going on re tax for so many clubs to be in the $hit. i might ask the guys at work...

Leeds were supposedly doing a test case (think i am correct) on behalf of some SL clubs. Now since then 5 sides have gone and had a tax bill. If they have got round the cap then those sides should be looked at. If they were getting put into admin due to non payment to a company then it would not smell as bad as it does. But all owe the HMS tax i know they collect taxes on various stuff but its like a domino effect atm one gets put in admin gets out and another goes in. Salford, Bulls, Wakey, Crusaders, Widnes etc.

No, having number of hopeless teams doesnt make for great entertainment. But the point is they arent hopeless, they just arent where we need them to be. And yes we have a product to sell, but that product is the competition and more clubs of a higher quality improves the competition and as such improves the product we are selling, benefiting everyone.

Im a Leeds fan, we are doing ok.

It was not directed at you personally... But yes you are doing ok, produce mediocre performances all year, and get crowned champions in an end of season "cup knock out". This will do more to affect attendances in the long run than a reduction of games. We need games with intensity to produce good players and a terrific product. Leeds fans have been screaming for the coaches head all season... Enjoy the race to mediocrity

It hasnt resulted in a reduction in attendances for the past 7 when only 2 sides who finished top in the qualifying competition won the whole competition, why would it now?

Do you just make this stuff up?

Silly me, you are quite right. RL is in a wonderful place. Our best players are looking to move to the NRL or Union, we have clubs with dire financial positions just scrapeing by, the quality over the season is awful, our national team has never been worse, we have so little media attention its embarrassing.... The much vaunted playoff system attracts awful attendances, but can be justified because one of the top 4 clubs finished 5th and won it twice, therefore causeing people to class it as a success!!! Yeah all is wonderful.



But hey!! Good news!!! Leeds are successful within the current system so all is well!!!

That’s quite a straw man you have built there.

Are you pitching for a job at the RFL by any chance?



Because that's the sort of empty hyperbole they like.