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Eddie Hemmings made a stupid remark on sky when this happened, something along the lines of
"Luauki deserves everything he gets for running in like that"
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| Quote Wigan Peer="Wigan Peer"I don't like this type of "tackle", and this is my reason. I think its cowardly.
You are only in any real danger of injuring your opponent, not yourself, because you don't put your head into the tackle. I'm sure people can cite instancies when the tackler has been injured, and players saying "its part of the game". But after one of these tackles which has been "Mistimed", its almost always the tackled person on the deck, and normally with a head injury. The tackle being talked about last night deserves to be punished because the arm was away from the body when it made contact. Where does a "shoulder charge" stop, and a "swinging arm" start?'"
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| Quote Mash Butty="Mash Butty"Same scenario, culprit Ryan Bailey, what happens?'"
Fasavalu leaves the field and Bailey spends the rest of the game avoiding James Graham? |
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I don't agree with banning the shoulder charge, it's a good hit when done properly (ie below the neck). The rule is (or should be) simple - any forceful contact to the head or neck, no matter with which part of the body, should be a red card.
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Going OT slightly I love the shoulder charge when done properly such as Tommy and the Sam Burges against the Kiwi (whose name I cant spell). But if done wrong and it heads the head then sending off, also I think any tackle that hits the head should be at least a sin bin. Give it a month then every tackle will be text book.
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| Quote fatbaztod100="fatbaztod100"Going OT slightly I love the shoulder charge when done properly such as Tommy and the Sam Burges against the Kiwi (whose name I cant spell). But if done wrong and it heads the head then sending off, also I think any tackle that hits the head should be at least a sin bin. Give it a month then every tackle will be text book.'"
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Eric does seem to Kop some belters in his face, but to be fair he walked off like a trooper, think Westerman was lucky especially as he was 2nd man in the tackle. Looked horrible in slow motion and to me (and Sam T) it was more his elbow which could probably cause more damage than a shoulder.
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How can it be ok to use a shoulder charge fairly below the neck, but 6 inches higher is a red card? That then depends on the height of the player being tackled: so if he's short, or is dipping into the tackle, or being tackled and going down, what could have been a fair challenge becomes a sending-off. Too tight to call, and open to too much 'opinion'.
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| Quote Smooth Stu="Smooth Stu"How can it be ok to use a shoulder charge fairly below the neck, but 6 inches higher is a red card? '"
Exactly the same rule as for an arm tackle. When was the last time someone was penalised for a swinging arm to the chest? |
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| Quote Guerrier="Guerrier"I see what you mean, but is there not an argument to say the way they do it means it's more consistent across the 7 games played that weekend?'"
There is an argument for that, but personally I believe that they should use the best evidence available to them. |
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| Quote Geoff="Geoff"Exactly the same rule as for an arm tackle. When was the last time someone was penalised for a swinging arm to the chest?'"
Exactly spot on! it makes the tackler to make sure he uses the correct method. I know it will sometimes be mistimed but the responsibility is on the tackler. |
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| Quote Smooth Stu="Smooth Stu"How can it be ok to use a shoulder charge fairly below the neck, but 6 inches higher is a red card? That then depends on the height of the player being tackled: so if he's short, or is dipping into the tackle, or being tackled and going down, what could have been a fair challenge becomes a sending-off. Too tight to call, and open to too much 'opinion'.'"
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Quote Smooth Stu="wigan pier"Exactly spot on! it makes the tackler to make sure he uses the correct method. I know it will sometimes be mistimed but the responsibility is on the tackler.'"
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