Complete and utter shambles.





I am cheering for the French.









Good to see the RFL's policies working isn't it?





Still, at least Wigan aren't winning everything. That's what counts.

In my memory we have only ever toured the South Pacific once, 1i 1996. Played 3 tests against NZ, lost all 3, beat PNG 24-22(or something similar) and tonked Fiji about 70-10, think we also played a NZ Maori side and only just scraped a win.



For further info, Bilko has a page on tests in the last 30 years on the Cherry and White site.

Quote Dougy="Dougy"In my memory we have only ever toured the South Pacific once, 1i 1996. Played 3 tests against NZ, lost all 3, beat PNG 24-22(or something similar) and tonked Fiji about 70-10, think we also played a NZ Maori side and only just scraped a win. For further info, Bilko has a page on tests in the last 30 years on the Cherry and White site.'" wigan.rlfans.com/fusion_pages/in ... ge_id=1094

Quote Dougy="Dougy"In my memory we have only ever toured the South Pacific once, 1i 1996. Played 3 tests against NZ, lost all 3, beat PNG 24-22(or something similar) and tonked Fiji about 70-10, think we also played a NZ Maori side and only just scraped a win. For further info, Bilko has a page on tests in the last 30 years on the Cherry and White site.'" wigan.rlfans.com/fusion_pages/in ... ge_id=1094

Really? I think you're falling for the Sooopah Dooopah League hype. Morley in his prime yes, but he's past his best and only shines now due to the mediocrity of his competition. Graham and Burgess have a lot to prove IMO.



Just in case anyone is in any doubt as to how far things have slipped since the modern era heyday of British RL in the early 90s, this was the side that lost the World Cup Final 10-6 in 1992



1. Joe Lydon; 2. Alan Hunte; 3. Gary Connolly; 4. Garry Schofield (c); 5. Martin Offiah; 6. Shaun Edwards; 7. Deryck Fox

8. Kevin Ward; 9. Martin Dermott; 10. Andy Platt; 11. Denis Betts; 12. Phil Clarke; 13. Ellery Hanley

Replacements: John Devereux, Alan Tait, Kelvin Skerrett & Richard Eyres



Or look at this side from earlier the same year, which lost the Ashes decider in Brisbane 16-10 (it seems unbelievable in these Soooopah Dooopah days but we were that close to the Aussies once upon a time)



Steadman (Castleford); Eastwood (Hull), Powell (Sheffield), Newlove (Featherstone), Offiah (Wigan); Schofield (Leeds, capt), Edwards; Skerrett, Dermott, Platt, Betts, McGinty, Clarke (all Wigan).

Substitutes: Harrison (Halifax) for Skerrett, 50; Hulme (Widnes) for McGinty, 50; Connolly (St Helens) for Newlove, 62; Lydon (Wigan) for Schofield, 75.

Could not have put that better myself.

I must admit i am one of the biggest advocates of international RL and it pains me to see the current situation wherby it is is now on it's death bed. The advent of Super League with huge amounts of money thrown at Australian RL players to confirm alegiance and the switch to summer rugby has only increased the focus on parochial club rugby (shown by increase in crowds).



We just dont play enough meaningful games together to actually think that we can throw together a cohesive unit to perform against the likes of Oz and NZ. Even when we try, we have a coach who is hell bent on trying every player in Super League rather than trying to develop a team.



Again, i am not a parochial Wigan fan, but my decsion to attend next week at DW will be based upon whether Sam Tomkins gets the nod as it is embarrasing to watch an 'England' team (why does that always remind me of when England A used to play Oz in warm ups to the GB team?) tha tplays with such little heart? I really do fear for next week.

I'm excited about tonights game.



cant wait watch some real rugby being played

There just didn't seem to be any spark last night. The crowd was flat and the team was flat. Whether the idea to take a international game to Donnie (hot bed of rugby league

)on a wet friday night in the middle of October had anything to do with it or the fact that Eastmond or Tomkins didn't get a full run had anything to do with it but from, the crowd, the team and the national anthems the whole thing just smacked of cheap tat. It was Embarrassing to watch on TV, just glad I didn't jump on the M180 and wasted my money watching it.

Agreed. Last night was amateur compared to what will be served up tonight.



The drivel that has been served up in SL this year was on display last week, it will be a record score at the DW next week.

Great days ... a real competitiveness that seems long lost. I'm afraid I cannot muster anywhere near as much enthusiasm nowadays. I actually voted "not really" but now think I should probably have just voted "no"....very sad.

Im quite embarrassed at the quality of our team at the moment we seem to go backwards as other teams go forward

It is the best rugby league you will see two great teams who have been coached very well with a winning mentality and play attractive entertaining rugby.