With Wigan, no you don't. In this case with Souths, you do.



Other clubs have absolutely no problem with announcing new signings and clearly don't give a stuff what Wigan think so the fact we have not announced anyone leads to the conclusion we have not signed anyone. Including re-signing Finch.



There is absolutely no reason to bury good news. None. Certainly not the sensibilities of other clubs.



The excuse we may have agreed with player and club to say nowt is very tired and pretty ridiculous when every club who takes a a player from us announces it in the press as soon as they can. IL gains nothing by keeping quiet and just annoys the fans. But I suspect the reason for silence is as I said because we have not signed anyone.

Surely your not thinking of playing Wane in the front row ?



He was good in his time.



But I would suggest he is a bit 'past it' now.





Back on track though.



I am another that feels let down by these southern hemisphere players, just walking out of their contractual obligations.

A lot of comments on here seem to be reactionary, somewhat knee-jerk in light of Lima's departure. Personally regardless of numerous comments on here I still have faith in IL, and why wouldn't I have faith considering all the well calculated positive implementations he's developed since he took over. Granted not everything has been plain sailing, however that's business, thats life.



I am happy with our squad and development of Wigan lads led by a Wigan coach, not just any Wigan coach but an excellent Wigan coach who as excelled at all levels of his development. Currently we are progressing nicely in both competitions-we are doing well.



Lima on paper seems like a big loss, but lets not react to the transfer until we know the bigger picture, IL could have something planned that will ease the pain of losing one of our quality props.



Even if no one is signed-which could actually be a good thing, we have all the potential to develop some of our current players to be even better than Lima is today, sharing the cap out with tact amongst a 'Wigan' team.



IMO Hansen could step up and become a good workhorse prop. And lets face it, he won't be doing a runner anytime soon...

Apart from Hull signing Ellis and Catalan signing Zeb Taia what other signings have been announced?



Oh, Ian Thornley to Wigan, does that count?



Front Row is Wigans strongest position, Mossop, Prescott, Lauaki, Dudson, Spencer, Flower, Crosby, and Fielden (if he recovers) Then there is Greg Burke out on loan who is a tremendous prospect.



We do need to get the halfback position sorted and maybe centre to replace George though.

Can't work out if I want to see Lima benched or run into the ground. Probably the latter. Take him off the rotation policy send him to South's with miles more tread taken off his tires.

Or, forget about next year, focus on the 2 trophies we're fighting for and keep him doing what he's done so far this year which is clearly working well. He may be off to Souths next year, but until Wigan finish our season, he's ours and that should be the only concern in relation to how he plays.

Exactly.



Not as if he's been like some of the others and started going to the press saying he wants out, if anything I think it's a huge credit to Lima (+ agent) that this was such a suprise. I know there was a few leaks a couple of days before but on the whole it caught everyone off guard.

Makes you wonder how many other players Maguire is going to try and persuade to leave us - where does it stop? Would he like Sam and Josh for starters and maybe a few others along the way? Don't get me wrong I thought Maguire was brilliant for us in his first year but things changed dramatically for me when he got his new job part way through season 2. Players didn't get rotated in the same way and the team sometimes looked like Noble had picked it, it was also clear that he spent a goodly part of the remainder of his time with us recruiting new players for himself rather than concentrating on us - maybe that is a bit OTT on my part but I'm sure most of you will know what I mean - he made an art form out of being an opportunist. The funny thing about Jeff Lima to me is that he seems to have played much much better under Wane than he ever did under Maguire but if he wants to go then so be it, no point in trying to hang on to folk who don't want to play for us

Wigan have been aware of his intention for some time. On the plus side (there is always one) its our strongest position and it releases money and an over seas spot that both can be used filling a position we are not as strong in. Its about the team not individuals, that's a route we have been down before!

Lets send Tommy early too then..,

I thought Maguire was excellent in his first year here and merely good in his second. He blooded no youngsters in that second year and ran the starters into the ground. It's why he fell flat on our faces during the playoffs.

Why? He's run his contract out and been here for 6+ years.



Lima is going home early. Entirely different ball game. I don't blame him for leaving, I just don't think we have a duty of care for him anymore.