ooooo so many posts being ignored

What I found most interesting was Wane saying he plans to change the way we play.



We've had a lot of success with our structured attack over the last 5 years and may continue to do so but I do feel we need more variety at times.

Just more info as to what Wane had a problem with - i.e. Wire playing as Wigan - until it can be proved he's done the same to help someone else he can't be called a hypocrite. It was very specific what he had a problem with.

Well that's the grey area isn't it. Unless you've spoken to him privately about what he had an issue with and/or watch his training sessions with Souths, I guess we'll never know for sure.



However as a general rule, surely even you can see the irony in him training with Souths after him spitting his dummy out earlier in the year?

That's nice to hear actually. This is what Nobby failed to do & why lots of coaches that stay with the same club for a while end up leaving under a cloud when their tactics are unpicked.

I hope he doesn't get too radical & end up confusing our poor dears, but if he's skipped a few letters & worked out plan F, this should be interesting (I hope).

The "playing differently" was the bit that interested me as well.



Tautai has come in and is known for his good passing and offloads. He now has two of the fastest props in SL with Clubb and Patrick. Perhaps we are going to be more dynamic up the middle where as well as the fast ptb Waney will have them tackle busting with supporting players picking up the pass or offload.



Offloads were never high in the team stats so that would be a real change in the way the team will play. He will also have more pace in the middle from the smaller men. Williams is fast as is Hampshire either from fb or hb. Those two could be devastating picking up passes and offloads.

Looks like something really different and exciting to look forward to.

Not really. That's been the case as long as I've been watching the game. It's not unusual to go as far as arranging warm up games. Usually these things are regarded as benefitting both parties. He made it plain at the time that he was angry that Wire went out of their way to do things like imitate Wigan's way of playing (which has absolutely no benefit to Wire whatsoever) which he thought was a bridge too far. Its like arguing that the next time a Saints player hits an opposition player the club are being hypocrites after the fuss they made of the Flower incident. I'm sure WHEN that happens (as opposed to if!

) you'll argue that the two incidents are different and the fuss made over the Flower incident had a completely different set of circumstances. Or am I wrong?

No grey area, I've given you everything you need, I even gave you Smith's response to it which was specific to the issue - the fact you keep ignoring it speaks volumes.



Wigan trained with Souths in the week of the WCC this year, they are just returning the favour - no surprise Maguire wants to train at Wigan given he was instrumental in developing and changing a lot of what is at Orrell.

Saints would be hypocritical if (not when

) a Saints player hit someone and then we went on to defend them. That would be hypocritical.



I accept that IF Wane's issue was purely with Warrington imitating Wigan and he has no intention of setting up as Saints in training with Souths then he isn't as hypocritical as I first thought.



My initial comments were based on the fact that he took umbrage with Warrington simply training with Roosters. If that wasn't the case then fair enough.

He’s not alone is he? (Glass houses)

Careful!!! Do not to derail the thread!!

With Saints' changes, both on and off the pitch, their approach to how they play the game could be totally different next season. If this is the case I can't see Wane being a massive help to Maguire.