Err thanks for that.

Without question. They're a win against Catalans or Widnes away from being in the same position as the other teams in the top four.



They're the team to beat IMO which sums up this crazy format we play under perfectly when you consider they're 6th!!

After reading through the Leeds forum this morning the first bit of sense comes on the Wigan forum, who would have thought that?!





Leeds' next fixture is dead rubber, McDermott should rest almost everybody. A win against Widnes/Catalan and we will be very well set for an assault against the top 4 with a fully fit squad. We will arguably be in a better position than our 2 GF wins from 5th.

And when you look at the fixtures the other teams in the top 6 will be coming off the back of, it would be silly to rule Leeds out as they should be the fresher team. Wigan and Wire play each other, Saints and Hudds play each other and Cas have to travel to France, all knowing they can finish in various positions between 1-5. Leeds know win, lose or draw against Hull FC on Friday, they'll be sixth and at home in week 1 of the playoffs. No disrespect to either Widnes or Cats, but you would expect a Leeds win in week 1, particularly at home, then they have to travel to a team who's lost an "on paper" much tougher game. It's an obvious failure with the system, but to rule Leeds out now is very premature.

they are certainly in the better position on paper (Leeds) but I think they looked really jaded in the second half against us last week so I doubt a weeks' rest for most of the first teamers will do them much good now, either physically or mentally. they are of course the team who perennially prove their doubters wrong however so all is yet to be seen I suppose.



can't see them even making the GF though myself.

That was more than likely the Challenge Cup hangover finally kicking in. They've had two tough games following the final (and played the majority of one of those a man down) so it was a good time to play them. It was a close, tight game up until Flower went over an could easily have gone either way if they had quickly scored again after Sutcliffe's try/Charnley's gift (delete as applicable).

which makes a further mockery of the present system and it doesn't help that teams are playing at different times and on different days. Not saying they will, but anyone could try to manipulate the results to their advantage.



for instance...would you fancy playing a pretty fresh Leeds away, or a beat up Wigan/wire/cas/hudds away? I predict both Widnes and Catalan lose this weekend, with neither fancying a trip to Leeds

If we beat Warrington and Huddersfield beat Saints who would you want to win between Catalan and Castleford? If Catalan win Saints win the hub cap and we finish 2nd with a home tie against Huddersfield. If Castleford win Saints are deprived of the hub cap and we finish 3rd with an away tie against Saints.

He's over-exaggerating a little, but you know full well you're out in the first week of the playoffs.

Cas to win, deny [ithem[/i their silverware for the season and I can get to Langtree Park for a game this season, as I had to miss GF.

Saints have been lucky that they had a lot of points before the injuries kicked in.

They have square pegs in round holes, lost another player to their huge injury list.



If you draw them in the playoffs I can't see many Wigan fans worrying too much.

They go into the season with one main halfback, then bemoan their luck when he get's injured and they have no recognised halfback.