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| I don't know if it will get moved or not but i'd love to know peoples views on this. [urlhttp://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyleague/5933825/Rugby-league-must-grow-up-and-stop-sniping-at-union.html[/url
I know RU stirs strong emotions in the Rl community and Brian Moore isn’t going to inundated with people trying to buy him pints if he ever turned up to watch a game at Pats or other local RL clubs up and down the country but does he make a valid point in his article?
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| Quote thepriestman85="thepriestman85"I don't know if it will get moved or not but i'd love to know peoples views on this. [urlhttp://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyleague/5933825/Rugby-league-must-grow-up-and-stop-sniping-at-union.html[/url
I know RU stirs strong emotions in the Rl community and Brian Moore isn’t going to inundated with people trying to buy him pints if he ever turned up to watch a game at Pats or other local RL clubs up and down the country but does he make a valid point in his article?'"
He probably does somewhere. But to be honest, Brian Moore posturing in any way - either as a rugby field hard man or an intelligent TV-newspaper pundit - just makes me s.
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| ive read up to this bit
In fact, if you go to the Wikipedia entry for that tournament you find the excuses listed for its poor attendances – torrential rainstorms and the crisis on Britain’s railways after the Hatfield rail crash.
anyone in journalism who uses Wikipedia to dredge for facts loses all credibilty as a journalist imo.
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| He complains that RL is snipping at RU, but he does this in his first few words
"The RLWC is not in that category"
The guy is an 4rsehole.
And as for giving the rights for the RLWC to the BBC, that in itself is laughable as they do F all to promote any games they currently have.
But when it comes to RU they have a near feature film quality advert, that lasts a damn sight longer than anything they have featuring RL.
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| Quote GB Lion="GB Lion"He complains that RL is snipping at RU, but he does this in his first few words
"The RLWC is not in that category"
The guy is an 4rsehole.
And as for giving the rights for the RLWC to the BBC, that in itself is laughable as they do F all to promote any games they currently have.
But when it comes to RU they have a near feature film quality advert, that lasts a damn sight longer than anything they have featuring RL.'"
He's a walking contradiction in what he trying to say as he does the exact same as what the RL guy has done.
He’s still got a point tho for me as I can’t see why we feel the need to poke the RU beast or look at ourselves in direct competition with them.
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| This is from the guy who does wine reviews in the Sun every Friday.
Quote It is unarguable that terrestrial TV broadcasters will produce vastly more viewers and we will see if there is any substance to the claims that News Corporation is as much in control of rugby league as the Rugby League International Federation.'"
If terrestrial tv got the rights we'd probably only get to watch one or two live matches per week with a ten minute highlight package shown at 02:20.
No way are the Beeb or ITV going to shunt Eastenders or Emmerdale off to make way for PNG v Wales on a Monday night.
At least with Sky they'll commit to showing pretty much every game live as they did in the last RLWC.
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| The blokes a muppet, contradicted himself on several occasions. What TS said was spot on though we need the publicity and exposure if we want the game to grow. I'm not sure we will ever have decent world cup untill we can get more that 3 (or 2 judging by the last workd cup) decent teams.
The only way i can think of doing that is to get at least 2 welsh, 2 scottish, 2 irish and 2 french teams into Sl and also them down under bringing another NZ team and a few from the pacific islands.
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| Quote GB Lion="GB Lion"He complains that RL is snipping at RU, but he does this in his first few words
"The RLWC is not in that category"
The guy is an 4rsehole.
And as for giving the rights for the RLWC to the BBC, that in itself is laughable as they do F all to promote any games they currently have.
But when it comes to RU they have a near feature film quality advert, that lasts a damn sight longer than anything they have featuring RL.'"
Nothing else needs to be said.
And while were at it, the rugby world cup should incorporate the word union into it's title just the like the the title of are competition uses the the word league. The word Rugby for me no longer describes either sport without the use of either union or league at the end, because after all we are two different sports.
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| Quote thepriestman85="thepriestman85"I don't know if it will get moved or not but i'd love to know peoples views on this. [urlhttp://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyleague/5933825/Rugby-league-must-grow-up-and-stop-sniping-at-union.html[/url
I know RU stirs strong emotions in the Rl community and Brian Moore isn’t going to inundated with people trying to buy him pints if he ever turned up to watch a game at Pats or other local RL clubs up and down the country but does he make a valid point in his article?'"
He says nothing that isn't true really.
Was there any need to mention the RUWC in the press conference? NO!
Will they sell out to Sky instead of go to a terrestrial channel to help promote broaden the game? UNLIKELY I would say, but what would probably happen is games are relegated to BBC4 or ITV2 anyway?
Also surely any publicity is good publicity?
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| Quote wellensisno1="wellensisno1"He says nothing that isn't true really.
Was there any need to mention the RUWC in the press conference? NO!
Will they sell out to Sky instead of go to a terrestrial channel to help promote broaden the game? UNLIKELY I would say, but what would probably happen is games are relegated to BBC4 or ITV2 anyway?
Also surely any publicity is good publicity?'"
I thought the same. In fact this thread proves his point to a degree, he says we need to grow up, so we call him an 4rsehole. Very grown up.
I don't know why we can't just focus on our own teams, our own sport and address Union only when they come sniffing after our players and leave the Latics cr4p that gets on here out altogether.
As for the World Cup, I thought the way the last one was organised as a tournament was 5hite. Best three/four teams in one group and everyone else lumped together. Why not have a few 100 point games if it means that the emerging nations get to play the best teams, it may be the only chance they ever get. The Challenge Cup has the potential to throw amateurs in with the big boys why shouldn't the World Cup.
The sooner RL as a whole stops looking around at what everyone else is doing at concentrates on getting its own house in order the better.
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| Quote LovesToSpooge="LovesToSpooge"Nothing else needs to be said.
And while were at it, the rugby world cup should incorporate the word union into it's title just the like the the title of are competition uses the the word league. The word Rugby for me no longer describes either sport without the use of either union or league at the end, because after all we are two different sports.'"
We had the original 'Rugby World Cup' but the RFU took the initiative and copyrighted the term for themselves 
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| Once again its men against boys when it comes to the administration of the 2 codes, we put an advert in the rugby league express for our administrators Union bring the top men in from around the world.
The comment by Spence was not required and pathetic, even if it is his belief which is a belief i share it is very amateur of him to bring it up in such a press conference.
The League World Cup is not in the same class as a Union, Football or Olympics it is light years behind when it comes to the money involved and the marketing side of things.
Sadly we continue to claim we have a stronger on field product which i am not in truth sure we do given the last world cup, and also claim we have superior athletes again which i am not sure we we certainly do not outside of the NRL.
In my opinion the 2013 World Cup has a 70% chance of destroying the credibility of the game beyond saving in this country and a 30% chance of finally being a launchpad for the game.
We MUST go terrestrial agreeing the package games to be screened and highlights show to get maximum exposure, we have to attempt to market it in conjunction with a terrestrial tv company to catch the imagination of those outside of the heartlands, it must be an event rather than a competition.
Sadly though due to the muppets at Red Hall I fully expect a build up of 1 z list celebrity, from the 60's, along with the token captains of each team rights sold to sky so it gets 5 minutes coverage on Sky Sports News, followed by a series of half full grounds England failing and enough ammo from the Union media to destroy our game for good.
I appreciate the NRL will never go for it but i would also like to see the comp be played in the Summer months rather than trying to highlight the skills of TGG on damp wet cold fields in the middle of the winter at Post Office Road. The Sunshine can make even the drabbest events an occasion .
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