Our club captain seems quite happy that Latics stayed up

To be fair, how many of those 'extra' fans used to support Leyth or St Helens? It's not really a fair comparison.

Whelan is good at running a club, he just lost interest in us when Latics were on the way up, backed up by Maurice who was well past his sell by. He misread the situation, believing that rugby fans would flock to see a high flying football team, when in fact our gates have increased significantly during Latics' time in the prem.

Exactly, it works both ways. The way people talk on here you would think rugby fans are all angels who have never done anything to cause tics fans to dislike us. A lot of people on both sides need to grow up

Oh dear Martin youve seem to have completely mis-understood my 'beef'...

As Ive said previously I dont really mind the glory hunters as each club has them be that Wigan RL, Tics or any other club.

But these extra Wigan RL fans you point out in your posting, have the vast majority of them supported Stains, Wire or Leeds in the past?

How do you know the vast majority of "new" Latics fans have supported someone else in the past?

You can't compare the 2. Wigan RL have always been a big club. When I was at school a lot of kids supported Latics half heartedly, and also supported a Premier League team, because when you're 10 you don't give a $hit about the lower leagues, not many people give a toss full stop, and everyone wants to support one of the big clubs with all the glamour and coverage that the Premiership has. Obviously when they made it big (ish) those people who supported Latics and also had a "big club" went full time with Latics

OFFS Andy have you no mucktags to pick off?



I can only go off my experience, Since 1990 Ive worked in 3 workplaces around this town with a combined workforce of approx 2100 staff. Of these 2100 people I can only remember around 15 that I can geniunley say didn't support any other club but Tics. I can tell you now, I could probably x20 the amount of people that now claim to watch TICS on a regular bases that we all knew had done a chameleon like change. Come 2005 people that I knew previously had supported UTD, scouse teams (even adorning the red devils/liver birds tatoo). The vast majority of Tics fans I know HAVE supported other teams in the past.

Having got to know the staff over a 21 year period I could even write down a list of tics fans with past alligences.



Im pretty sure other Wigan RL fans will concur with my experience, and have very similar examples.



Once again Andy I fail to see how somebody that doesnt live in the town can comment on the issue Ive brought up.

I aint talking about kids here pal, these are fully fledged 'adults'.

There's no need to get so defensive simply because I ask a simple question. Whether I live in the town or not has nothing to do with it.



So in your very limited experience, some people you know have changed and you've decided that means the vast majority of the 10k/11k/12k people who go to watch the Latics now compared to their Springfield Park days supported someone else. I can see why you got so defensive now.

Its got everything to do with it, Id imagine living in Leeds you dont come into contact with hundreds of Tic fans or know their previous.



So buy your reconing Mori, Yougov should be surveying 60 million people when it comes to election time then instead of the usual 1000?

Reet I think this thread should now become a listing for Wigan RL fans to post their experiences of the numbers of Tic chameleons just for the benefit of our dear Andy.



Oh and before I forget lets argue the point in hand Andy and not get into you usual mind games, eh pal?

Wow that's some dummy spit:



- I can't comment or have an opinion because I live in Leeds;

- I'm playing "mind games" (?); and

- Because I make the sensible and obviously statistically accurate assessment that you can't make judgements on 12,000 people based on a few you know, I'm suggesting survey organisations shouldn't use representative samples.









It was obvious you were talking crapola and you obviously knew this yourself hence the above. The people you know who've changed are obviously really winding you up big time given how you react about Latics threads on here. I reckon that says more about you than them.



Just because you know some people who changed doesn't mean it's representative of 12,000 other people.