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| Quote charlie63wildcat="charlie63wildcat"I know all this; it's still not good enough. We have some good players. The size of our pack was an obvious problem and Agar exacerbates it with his bench and interchanges. I don't expect top 6 but I do expect a side that doesn't keep making the same mistakes over and over again. Sadly we foolishly gave Agar 3 years when a trial of 1 should have been the offer. We probably can't afford to axe him. Lots more frustration with lost possession, crazy passes,panic Rugby, poor kicks, poor interchanges, poor tactics, poor defence and general hair loss to come.'"
I have no hair and blame it on being a wakey fan for over 30 years..more downs than ups
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| Quote tamargrace="tamargrace"I have no hair and blame it on being a wakey fan for over 30 years..more downs than ups'"
I agree baldy
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| Quote Micka="Micka"Richard Agar is NOT up to the task
He is in the top coaching position due to James Elston's sponsorship
Nepotism still reigns at our club'"
I thought we'd already done this one a few weeks ago? Don't take it from me, though - take it from people who know better: Agar was the best candidate available to us for the job. Argue as much as you like about the 3 year contract, but the rest seems pretty much undisputed, from what I've read.
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| wow what the hell are our standards like.
Agar to take us to the top!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!(of the bottom third)
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| Quote RebelRebel="RebelRebel"I thought we'd already done this one a few weeks ago? Don't take it from me, though - take it from people who know better: Agar was the best candidate available to us for the job. Argue as much as you like about the 3 year contract, but the rest seems pretty much undisputed, from what I've read.'"
How can a coach like Agar and his consistently underperforming record be our best choice? Are you forgetting the option of keeping Kear on? He certainly had us playing with a lot more pride and hunger with a team that cost a lot less. Don't get me wrong I was in favour of Kear moving on, I thought the time was right for a change. Not for one second did I expect us to give the job (and 3 years as well) to a coach with such an ordinary track record.
I've been watching us for 30 years and it's been more lows than highs but this season has to go down as one of the most disappointing of them all. I think the decision to appoint Agar will be one of the biggest errors in the clubs modern history. We'll feel the knock on effect for a few years to come!
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| Quote deeHell="deeHell"How can a coach like Agar and his consistently underperforming record be our best choice? Are you forgetting the option of keeping Kear on? '"
I'm not forgetting anything. We ditched Kear and then advertised the job. We didn't have anyone waiting in the wings. Like I said, argue the length of contract all you like, but the fact that Wakefield can't attract a better coach than Agar isn't Agar's fault, if you see what I mean.
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| Quote Micka="Micka"Dear Mr Glover
Here we are after another 30+ mauling
I know your roots are not in Rugby League but as a business man you have proved to us all that you know what is needed to be a sucess off the field
However you must surely now see that our product is just not performing as well as it should
We're our product say conservatories I'm sure you would make the necessary changes
Richard Agar is NOT up to the task
He is in the top coaching position due to James Elston's sponsorship
Nepotism still reigns at our club
Please make the changes before the fans turn away and we loose the feel good factor that has been in place since you took over.'"
Go on then exactly how good should we be .. top 4,top 8 or taking all things in to consideration roughly round about where we are now based on the idea that this may be a 3 year project ? I know it must be devastating to go to Saints and lose by two or three tries..honestly,for God's sake get a grip of reality,stop being such a pessimist, and for what it's worth I know at least 5 people who don't go to games anymore simply because of the moaning,A few years ago I watched a Trinity side home and away who never even tried,but I dont see that in this squad.Things ain't brilliant but it's work in progress and people like yourself havin a go at all and sundry don't help anything.
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| Think if Agar is that bad then we would have to look at the person who took him on. Elston gave him the contract and should be equally accountable as a lot of people were scepticle about his appointment when he announced hims and backed him to the hilt.
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| Quote deeHell="deeHell"How can a coach like Agar and his consistently underperforming record be our best choice? Are you forgetting the option of keeping Kear on? He certainly had us playing with a lot more pride and hunger with a team that cost a lot less. Don't get me wrong I was in favour of Kear moving on, I thought the time was right for a change. Not for one second did I expect us to give the job (and 3 years as well) to a coach with such an ordinary track record.
I've been watching us for 30 years and it's been more lows than highs but this season has to go down as one of the most disappointing of them all. I think the decision to appoint Agar will be one of the biggest errors in the clubs modern history. We'll feel the knock on effect for a few years to come!'"
Your opinion obviously but man talk about an unreal amount of hyperbole in that last paragraph, what exactly where you expecting out of this year, especially when you look at our squad and compare it against the teams around us like Cas, Salford, Hull KR & London it's no better and those team have been together for longer, then compare it against the top 6, a lot weaker. Add to that the seasons coming up to half way through and there's plenty to happen yet but your writing it off as the most disappointing in 30 years, wtf.
I think a quite a few of our fans have set themselves up for disappointment, with completely unrealistic aspirations imo, you could see it happening when we had that predictions thread and most had us down for 8th and above.
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| Quote Shifty Cat="Shifty Cat"I'd suggest that Saints can afford it and they had someone to fill the beach till next season. Like I said above, who is this coach that's going to come in and turn this average squad of players into something else.'"
John Kear ?
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| Well I did not think it was a good thing giving Agar a 3 year contract and a bad choice.But knowing who he was working under at Hull thought we should give him a chance.For heavens sake I dont think he has what it takes if Im honest but we are only roughly half way through the season lets at least give him a season to show what he can do.I am affraid he will be at the club long term now who said Kear would have had this lot up near the top.
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| Quote RebelRebel="RebelRebel"I thought we'd already done this one a few weeks ago? Don't take it from me, though - take it from people who know better: Agar was the best candidate available to us for the job. Argue as much as you like about the 3 year contract, but the rest seems pretty much undisputed, from what I've read.'"
Sorry -- but says who?
Glover/Elston?
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