Hirst is good for 2 dropped balls a game. Can't afford it if we want to push on.

He's only made 5 errors all season looking at his stats?



The one the other night I'd hardly blame him for either...what halfback at first receiver on the last tackle passes along the line to a prop forward!

Hirst has being an exceptional signing for us, a john kear signing at its best I'd say



Hirst, Grix, Wood, MCB, Huby, Walker have all being better than I think any of us could have hoped for



Williams has being the only signing who hasn't exceeded my expectations though he has being competent



For me carter's greatest signing of all is John Kear

Agree with that

Why on earth would Finn give a flat pass to Hirst on the last, that was a rare shocker from Finny, keegan shouldn't have being put in that position



Last tackle kicking is one of the only areas we need to massively improve on, williams is woeful in this area

Completely agree. That was awful. Regarding stats, I wouldn't trust them at all. Trin have been known to send them back and get them redone post game before now. I can only go on what I see. Agree about kear, how long was he signed up for? Salford made a big deal about signing up their backeoom staff, hope we do the same.

Really? 'Exceptional'? Funny how we all see things different. I guess the proof will be in if we extend his contract.

I agree, it's funny how we do all see things differently

FWIW my reasons for why I'd use that word to describe him



I had no expectations for keegan what soever, so exceptional relative to expectations might be a better description

His work in defence is really good, in attack he's really sucks the defence in and I'd say is probably the hardest player (next to Fifita) in our team to put down, he nearly always makes more meters after the initial tackle and has enough of an off load game to trouble the defence and give us some second phase play, he uses his size really well and makes it hellish awkward to be tackled



I'd actually put him above England in the pecking order



Agree re proof in contract though, I'm just a spectator, it's the coaches decisions that matter

Happy with Hirst's first season and hope we give him 2nd shot. Think he's going to improve too.

He seems to lose the ball in contact and has struggled with the short ball on occasion but, on the plus side, he's quick, strong as hell in the tackle and has an offload game, which, if we utilise properly, make him a great asset.

He also has some pace, a bit like Richard Moore of old and can disrupt the opposition.



Definitely a keeper !

This for me.



I am not sure if this is a Kear thing, but we rarely ever compete for the ball from our high kicks. Some teams contest every single high ball but we seem to set up defensively and hope the defender drops it.



The reason i think it may be a Kear tactic is that last time he was here we had Danny Brough and did not contest them then either.

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I'm not sure what to make of it either

It could be a kear thing but I'm inclined to say two of our halfs excel in many areas but kicking just doesn't seem to be something we do well



JJB is excellent in the air but rarely gets targeted



One of the things I remember about danny brough when he was here were those amazing shallow angled grubber kicks that use to cause all sorts of probs and mostly lead to a try for us or an opposition drop out, not to mention his bombs, 40/20s and last tackle kicks to get us out of our own half



That to me is the only thing we are missing, every other part of our game really is brilliant

I'm hoping Randal may help improve us in the kicking department

It would all depend on what room we have available on the cap and also what out playing budget will be for 2018. I would though try to retain Williams.



For me hooker is a definate. Hopefully Tyler Randell would be the man.



As someone else earlier mentioned maybe a centre with the Collis style handling skills and also a big second rower in the Murdoch Masilla or Lautiti style. Kirmo getting no younger and the injuries taking longer to heal.



One thing I would consider though, not necessarily immediately would be a player who can play at full back and half back competently. Both Grix and Finn getting no younger and cant go on forever