My point is people are quick to condemn but have probably been guilty of it themselves in the past by just making a snide comment at some stage.

Well said. No matter how many it was (oh and it was more than the 4 that people are trying to claim) and how long they lasted the chants were disgusting but the attempts to try and justify them on here are just unbelievable. I have to worry about the mentality of those people just as much as those who committed the acts. It is NOT acceptable, ever.

Do you think it could be about time that the United Nations issued a decree that ALL nations could be allowed to take the mick out of each other? This way we could possibly all, irrespective of race or creed, officially have a good laugh without having to look over our shoulders all the time. The world may then be a friendlier place.

That’s alright then, the club can go to Red Hall with their conscience clear.



“It’s not our fault guv, it was a number of idiots what did it”



“No worries then lads, society these days, what do you do, I blame the parents”

I suppose when racial prejudice and hate cease to exist than maybe they could look into that.

Well said.

When I referred to 4-5 fans this was the song about the Bradford fire.



The other song mentioned on here involved more than that.



Think this thread shows that the majority of fans are on the same page regardless of which club these morons support.



The few who are making excuses really need to wake up and realise that in this day and age racism in any form is unacceptable - under no circumstances can you class that as 'banter'

Does Jim Davidson still tour in Wakefield?

Nobody is saying its acceptable but what were Bradford fans fans expecting, if you were from Bradford and went to any other town or City chanting derogatory comments about it you will get the same response. I was once at a Leeds Bradford final when Bradford were chanting to Leeds you're just a town full of Jews (using another term) with Leeds chanting your just a town full of Asians (using another term) never saw anything in the press about that. It was wrong but has been blown out of all proportion.

See above for plenty of examples of internet outrage; you try to keep an ugly incident in perspective, and you're guilty of condoning it - again, a logical fallacy.



For clarity, with all but perhaps one worrying exception, everyone agrees that any racist chanting is wrong - a few people were allegedly involved and hopefully, they'll be dealt with; despite the best efforts of some people to illustrate otherwise, it still doesn't mean that the club has widespread issues with supporters.

Took over when Bernard Manning cancelled

The whole subjects a mine field and doesn't always receive the urgency it probably deserves . views and opinions are vary rarely changed and im not sure the culprits even understand the issues that have been put forward over the past 13 pages.

Thankfully the whole subject seems to be handled in schools much better these days and youths of today seem more tolerant about the race issues.

Attitudes have changed over the years but the whole process as taken longer than many would like. I had a very close friend who died not so long back and his views when expressed would curdle the air. He lived in South Africa for 16 years and I suppose he obtained his dated opinions from the views of many at that time.

Sometimes it difficult to know what you can or can not say without offence or how what you do say may be interpreted .

The reported incidents at B V last Saturday are regrettable and if proven must be acted upon. Like I said you are most unlikely to change the views of people . However the club manage to handle the investigation will probably be criticised by both supporters of such actions and those appalled .

Good Luck