Spot on from Vasty. An additional point I would add is to review the non-smoking policy at Belle Vue. I cannot understand why a smoking area cannot be provided.

and where better to advertise than in your local cinema before the screenings





by the way vasty mustangs shut down but yes a shirt night presentations was where the shirts was reveal and provided a build to the next season

do you have one at cas

I still think that some so called fans are looking for the least possible excuse not to turn up,might just be my imagination,but that's what I feel.this is only my view and I know I'll get the usual slaver from posters,but I've not had any reasons to feel that MC and Co have any anti fan agenda.If they don't turn up then that's their prerogative,for what ever reason.It's sad really for Wakefield when they can watch Trin and sulk at the same time

Agree with most of your post vast man especially re the fans. I put something on Facebook regarding big al and his family in a string of posts in which the wildcats contributed. Sadly no reply from them was made. They don't seem to realise the ill feeling this has created with some fans. Until it all kicked off I wasn't even aware of this policy and I attend all home games apart from when on holiday, which I was at this time. It seems bonkers to me to alienate hardcore fans. Having said that I wouldn't have reacted the same way as al and his family butveCh to their own

You can have a cig at Cas in the open end (railway) or the left hand terrace across from the Wheldon Road end, or behind the main stand. I'm a non-smoker personally but I know some fans won't go to away games if they cannot smoke.



Fev recently tried to stop smoking at Post Office Road - it backfired on them and they have gone back to the previous policy.

Dooh, that was going to be one of my points. As Mr Carter said the old hoardings are outdated in the era of Facebook etc but very localised cinema advertising is hitting the right audience who obviously have cash to spare. I don't know whether it can still be done locally or at what cost but even just a pre season run maybe a possibility. Maybe in conjunction with a sponsor?

No you're right and that's the whole point - sad as it is it takes very little to put some people off and there isn't much anybody can do about that. All clubs have them and maybe for historical reasons we have more than most. However when fans like Big Al are staying home that's a whole new issue and needs addressing urgently.

Agreed, but there seems no give and take it's all blanket policies.



As a smoker I accept nobody want smoke in their face on the terraces that's just rude - but seriously what harm is it doing anyone but the fully aware smoker tucked away in some corner - it is plain dictatorial nonsense and has not a legal thing.



Also according to our head H&R guy and complete liar if what you're saying is correct it's a SL regulation but not one I can find anywhere though who knows as we no longer live in a a free country.

Al's a very strong minded bloke and I know this will be hurting him, the longer this goes the easier he'll find it



miss standing with him, real gent

this seriously needs addressing, I can understand on concreted areas but do we need another Bradford disaster to get this right

Very good post Vasty, I agree with everything you've said.



The point about Al is a really valid one, we can't have it both ways, we're a small knit community club that has a superb family atmosphere and diehard fans who'll always back the club. The moment you start eroding that cliff face you're in danger of the whole house falling into oblivion.



I know there has to be regulations but this has gone too far, from the outside looking in it seems a steward has misinterpreted the instructions and over enforced the rules. Unfortunately he's done so with a high profile, dedicated, respected lifetime fan who has a history of fund raising for both charity and club causes.



The club it seems have done what they think is right by backing the steward but oh have they got this one wrong. As the incident blew up out of all proportion, Al may well have said things out of indignation as he stood his ground but please let common sense prevail here and someone from the club be tasked with resolving the issue.