Do you mean the laboured old chestnut of "Ironically Crusaders' demise ensured Wakefield retained their Super League status. " It does become a bore to still be rolled out.

I'm embarrassed for you.

The chance to right that opinion has gone, if we were confident that we were in on merit and ahead of other clubs we should have been shouting it from the rooftops after the franchise announcements, instead we kept fairly quiet. As a result of which, we will get labelled with that for a while.



All we can do now is prove that we deserve the place we were given at the top table, keep improving year on year and make sure that in 3 years time it is somebody else in the firing line and not us.

thanks that's a weight and a job off my shoulders , now off you pop back inside vasties pocket.

it amazes me how many times you as a poster slip off topic maybe if you stepped of your high horse , read between the lines and stopped preaching so much you to could one day see the world as clear as me . Until that day arrives try a little harder with your fishing.



back onto the topic



mavis thanks for the extra son at times you were 1 of the few trying out there

And again!

It was more a case of him linking us with Keith Senior again that bothered me! When Murphy goes we will be short of a natural centre with superleague experience to cover Mellars and Collis but we don't want Senior under any circumstances.

Why this need to endlessly debate, you're like our very own Smokey TA. I made my point, stated my argument and you don't agree - what can I do I can't force you to see it my way. Unlike you I don't see myself as a new regime RL missionary zealot trying to impose my view upon people. Thus I don't need to defend my position as I really am not so egotistical as to want or expect you to see it my way - frankly I really don't care what you think.



I'll continue to state my position as best I can, with or without your consent. Hope that helps.

Seek help - NOW - please for your own sake.

Hi Theboyem, I know. I was just trying to bring a little smile on a Friday morning to readers by deliberately misinterpreting the former post

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Like you, I would have reservations with Senior coming here.

Ok no problem, but if you are going to have a point its usually handy to be able to back it up, something you usually expect of others.

I'm not a zealot, i just havent seen anything yet to be massively moody about, things are better, and as pointed out, youve yet to back anything up to the contrary.

The paradox in all this is that when the building was on fire, Chief Fire Marshall Vastman, was shouting down those shouting fire, now everything is a hell of a lot better youre grumbling more than my belly before bed.

I think anyone with any sense can make there own mind up, about your views and the reasons behind them, i dont give a flying fig if you wish to continue to make yourself look a numpty, i certainly wish you no ill.

Needless to say if your spouting e or acting like a hypocrite (IMO of course) i may feel the need to say something, dont take it personal, its a condition i suffer.

I'm lost now. Can someone post a little matrix to show who's dad is biggest and who doesn't like each other.

It would make it a lot easier to follow.