Last season was the worst by a long way, Can't you remember most of our games being over 30 minutes into the match ? John Kear picking Tommy Lee and Smith for every game while they were creating nothing to put points on the board ? This squad is what it is, it's the squad of a bottom 3rd position. Maybe after a full season of playing together and pivotal positions (s/h and s/o) are filled with more quality (Smith will never be good enough, the jury's out on John ATM) a lot of tweaking needs to be done.

From what I've seen so far this season is the inconsistency of a squad of new players without a real leader that will take the game by the scruff of the neck,, stick Danny Brough in our side and you have a whole different outfit. The importance of a good kicking game and field position is paramount at Super League level, something that we haven't got in Smith.

I must admit I was very surprised with the bench which looked lightweight but I'm not a RL coach or R.A. so cannot understand his thought process with that. Thought though Johnson & James were definate bench material for props against Saints and is the Mellars second row experiment really working? I don't think it is.





Aspirations have been too high this season and the squad is not top 8 material IMO. Its a building process and ripping into them everytime they lose does not help WTW. We are a small club that cannot just buy 17 international quality RL players. If we don't finish bottom this season I think that will be an achievement.

Ian MillWard ?? Hahaha

Well you've hit the nail on the head there mate because that's exactly what they are. None of them would get in a top four team, that's why they're at Wakefield.

I think we're at the stage of the season where we can see just what we have and with the exception of two or three players we have not got the quality. Simple as that. No coach in the league can bring out what is not there. Teams like St. Helens, Leeds etc are easy to coach compared to Wakefield.

I didn't want RA as coach, don't agree with his team selections but nobody can put in what isn't there. I feel we can only wait now. There's no quick fix - just more drubbings on the way and hopefully we may sneak another couple of wins before the end of the season!

No being negative just realistic!

John Kear had far more to contend with last season and at the end of this season Agar will not have delivered as many wins folk had a go at John but the fact is he should still be our coach

Who else was available to us in addition to Agar?



Brian Noble certainly has a good CV and I'm sure he wasn't in a coaching role when Agar was drafted in...



Thinking on...so was Paul Cullen.

Well folks we can argue all we like about the ability of Agar, buts lets get down to the real root of the problem with our side.



We all accept we had a short period to recruit players and coaching staff. We all accept we were looking at the bottom of the barrel for options.



However someone with half a brain cell would have at least seen the damage being done by expensive 3 year contracts being dished out to all and sundry. Sack Agar if you will but that still dosn't alter the problem that most of this overpaid and under performing squad are tied up for the next three seasons. The club may have made a huge amount of progress on the commercial front but the way the rugby side has been run is the worst I have ever seen during our time in SL.

OK, the last paragraph might have been worded a bit over the top but I was still mad after last nights performance, the sentiment is still the same. What I was expecting this season is a team that is at least better than last season. At least a team playing with pride like we was for a decent period of last season. I expected us to compete with Hull KR and London. A 10th place finish would been ok for me as long we had at least given the 8th spot a challenge. That expectation is based on Elstons expectation at the fans forum pre season. I'm afraid we have no excuses for putting our worst performing team in Super League history this season.

I don't know what happened behind the scenes but I thought it was poor form from the club to not make an attempt to keep some of the departed players. We had put the hard work into George, Murphy, Gledhill and Howarth Yet again here we are re-building from scratch when we had no need to. Agar doesn’t seem to be that interested in building on Wilde and Davey’s first full season of SL rugby. As for Moore, well the guy never got a chance prove himself, I can’t see him been any worse/better than John and certainly cost a lot less plus free up a quota spot. If we had re signed some of these the less we would of relied on giving 3 year contracts to Journey men!

If we aint carefull we will have those codheads on telling us (we told you so) with Agars selecting players out of position.

Just pick a sensible bench

We have given that up!! I know exactly what you are going through and it's not nice, fingers crossed you can start getting some results. From what I've seen your players seem to be trying and don't give up.