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| What id like to know is what do some people think agars credentials are don't think he ever played top class, played at Dewsbury, coached at feather stone lions got lucky when kear took him as assistant when kear was sacked was assistant with the new coach say no more about his time as head coach at hull' then us he hasn't been a success anywhere really as he
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| I remember listening to Agar at an audience with event early on in his time at wakefield, and he said then that he wanted a senior group of established SL players around the top end of the payscale (£100k area was mentioned)who would effectively "pick themselves" in his first team squad. I don't think he is minded to bring players through the ranks too much.
He seems more of a manager than a coach to me. I cant think of very many occasions where he speaks of tactics or gameplans at all .
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| Well..............One week further on,did Agar put something on the menu today that was tasty?
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| Personnley i have no doubt agar should be gone now i would replace him till the end of the season with somone with who i admit only got little experiance but has done a pretty decent job but would come and except nothing but 110% and get the team pumped up......JD
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| Quote leedscat="leedscat"Personnley i have no doubt agar should be gone now i would replace him till the end of the season with somone with who i admit only got little experiance but has done a pretty decent job but would come and except nothing but 110% and get the team pumped up......JD'"
Personally i would prefer Mr Blobby to Agar.
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| We can't afford to sack Agar otherwise I am sure we would have done it by now. He isn't going to walk away of his own freewill because if he was an honourable man I am sure he would have done it by now. Therefore we are stuck with him.
Doers he employ the wrong tactics ? Or are the players not performing the tactics he wants ? Either way he has to make the choice to change the tactics or change the players if they are not doing what he wants. Just continuing to do things that haven't worked and don't work is not good enough.
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| Quote kyassor="kyassor"[uWe can't afford to sack Agar[/u otherwise I am sure we would have done it by now. He isn't going to walk away of his own freewill because if he was an honourable man I am sure he would have done it by now. Therefore we are stuck with him.
Doers he employ the wrong tactics ? Or are the players not performing the tactics he wants ? Either way he has to make the choice to change the tactics or change the players if they are not doing what he wants. Just continuing to do things that haven't worked and don't work is not good enough.'"
Respect your opinion,but im not convinced we cant afford to sack him.Only a couple of weeks ago MC was saying there was still monies available to sign a couple more players and we had offers out for them.
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| Courage is what it takes to stand up and speak; courage is also what it takes to sit down and listen. ~Winston Churchill
This is what Agar metaphorically needs to do now before it is too late. 
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| we need some one that can not only manage the players we need some one that can do it all and has done it all
we need John Kear back!
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| I said along he not a first team coach he a number 2 that talks a brilliant game , for the love of god please go mr agar
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| I like Agar, nice bloke and loves his rugby but his selections leave me scratching me head.
Mathers is not a winger as long as I have a hole in my booty, he shouldnt even be in the team. It reminds me of amateur teams where they stick the weakest player on the wing so to keep him out of the way.
Godinet started opening 8 games of the season at Scrum half, where he scored 6 tries and was forming a decent partnership with Sammut. Now he is an interchange hooker, with Sammut at Full back (sigh) and the godawful Siejka and bang average sykes forming our half backs.
Yesterday was a prime example of the effects of this, at no time when we got the ball did we ever look like putting a move together and creating gaps - it was turgid.
Smith gone to Fev as well - what is he playing at? Normally I assume that SL coaches know more than RL than me and trust their judgement but he simply confuses and annoys me.
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| Quote TrinityIHC="TrinityIHC"?.......
It reminds me of amateur teams where they stick the weakest player on the wing so to keep him out of the way.'"
Oi - that's where they used to stick me!! Mind you, I am as blind as a bat without my specs so you might be right!
Quote TrinityIHC="TrinityIHC"?.....Normally I assume that SL coaches know more than RL than me and trust their judgement but he simply confuses and annoys me.'"
Could someone who knows more about RL than me tell me this. Would it be the coach or would Sammut do it off his own bat - 8 or 9 kick offs and every one identical, to the same area of the pitch, the same player etc (except the one that went dead of course)? Is that sound, sensible tactics or not?
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| If we dont win both these next two games get shut! If do win them get shut at the end of the season. Better to pay him off and get some debt now rather than lose more fans for the long term. Could Webster step up to the role?
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| Quote Kevs Head="Kevs Head"Oi - that's where they used to stick me!! Mind you, I am as blind as a bat without my specs so you might be right!
Could someone who knows more about RL than me tell me this. Would it be the coach or would Sammut do it off his own bat - 8 or 9 kick offs and every one identical, to the same area of the pitch, the same player etc (except the one that went dead of course)? Is that sound, sensible tactics or not?'"
Not sure about our respective knowledge levels but you only had to look at Warringtons set piece kicking yesterday, everything haring towards the sideline along the deck or at least chance of bouncing out. Even if it gives a few more meters it puts more pressure on the defenders and gives you a chance to retain possession.
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