It would be interesting to see if he did it while he was at Hull and throughout the rest of his coaching career.

Please define this level of fitness observation please.....are you saying we are poorly conditioned?

I do think there is something in that, we do seem to have a knack of rotating after 35 mins in first half, surely this is lregel pointless and secondly makes players more prone to pulled muscles as they effectivly start cold twice in 5 mins game time!

Al I am questioning it, yes. Take the Leeds match last week.



Neither Wildie or Veivers were used in the first 60 mins that meant that Rinaldi had to do too much work in one go so nullified the latter part of his time on the field and meant he could not be there to be effective late in the game.



Amor hardly spent any time on the field at all and I am pretty sure was subbed 5 mins after half time having just had a 15 minute rest!!!



Morrison and Mariano both played 80 mins, cos Hendo was having to be spelled with the props. We should have two props on the bench, one backrower and a hooker.

to be fair i think its more to do with youth, players returning from injury, and players not used to playing at this level regularly.



coupled with tackle counts in first halves that are usually massively against us.



but we all knew this would happen, dont really see the point moaning about it!

Can not agree more Tricky



We have a relative team of nobodies who try so so hard for as long as possible and when they hit the 'wall', thats when other teams blow us away. It is a link between skill level and workload that then eventually contribute to fitness...the human body can only go a certain amount of time without feeling shafted...as it happens I think we are well conditioned.

Yes we did and its happening, we'll have to live with it and improve when we can.

It wasnt a question directed at you pal...but to the FlyingProp.

merely making an observations, and sort of agreeing with you!



bench, tiring, selection, tactics, all pointless discussions.



we have the players we have, and with 1 or two exceptions they are not SL standard, but they are ours and we still have a club.

Not having a dig, all I am saying is against Leeds last week and us this week you were well in the game till the latter stages, if it ain't fitness it must be Kear not knowing how to use his subs? Some of em looked out on their feet though TBH

i don't think that you have got it right at all.all this complicated over analysing you seem to do and your constant moaning about jk selection and bench use. its a simple game mate. last week and this week, had no problem getting to the line but failed to turn pressure to points. we are just short of a bit of flair and a bit of nounce. last week when the kick didn't reach touch the game turned. this week beginning of second half, dropped the ball , conceded a penalty, the game turned. i know we all like to look for scape goats but i think you are looking in the wrong place. we have got what we have got this year and we are doing ok and will get better. t.w.a.s

The problem is our pack is light both weeks they played above their weifgt for 60 minutes but the extra size and weight just grinds us down Huddersfield have some big lumps in that pack Mason, Griffin, Raleigh, put those 3 in our pack and we are in business