Roby was very influenced by the crowd yesterday shouting forward, I thought we had quite a few from dummy half that were borderline too. It seems to be creeping into the game where dummy half passes are getting flatter and flatter. I am not sure why this is, I assumed it was bad timing of the run but its too prevalent. I don't see what advantage is to be gained if teams are doing it on purpose.

Which is exactly what the relevant Law states.

So the law is based on common sense and people need to understand how physics works

I'm going to buy Wellsy a 'Physics for Dummies' book for Christmas.

Except here:

Direction of Pass 1. The direction of a pass is relative to the player making it and not to the actual path relative to the ground. A player running towards his opponents’ goal line may throw the ball towards a colleague who is behind him but because of the thrower’s own momentum the ball travels forward relative to the ground. This is not a forward pass as the thrower has not

passed the ball forward in relation to himself. This is particularly noticeable when a running player makes a high, lobbed pass.



Perhaps you should read the laws first, and then keep hold of that Physics for Dummies book before sending it on to anyone else.

Just to be awkward as well, the ball doesn't actual travel forward due to the thrower's own momentum. It's due to the thrower's own velocity. But I won't keep going on about it

Are you Stevo?



That backs up exactly what I said, there is no 'momentum rule', and a forward pass is determined by the players body position when passing relative to the pitch. The bit you've highlighted in bold is merely an example to illustrate this point that the RFL have included to help out the gormclopses.

Thank God for that.

That's not what you said at all. You said there was nothing in there about momentum. There is, I just showed you it.



There is no "momentum rule", but the direction of the pass rule takes momentum into account. It's there in black and white. So when you said there was nothing in there about momentum, you was clearly wrong.



Edit: Just to add, the next part of your explanation is also wrong. It's not to do with a player's body position. His body could be pointing anywhere and the ball may still go forwards, backwards, or wherever.

The position on the hands is usually a good indicator as to the direction of the pass, but it's not what the rule is based on. Nowhere in the rules does it say what you've said. Again, perhaps you should read them before attempting to be patronising.

So due to the momentum rule I could through the ball forward, like a quarter back, and as long as i could run faster than the ball it wouldn't be classed as forward?

It's an example, that's all. Read it again, it's not part of the rule, the RFL have added the example on there to help out gormclopses who don't understand what the first line means.



The players body shape, hands, direction of the pass relative to the pitch is all that counts. That's it.



Edit: Hands are part of ones body.

Jesus...if the ball is going forward out of the passers hands its forward...bugger momentum and everything else...ITS FORWARD.