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| Quote Dave K.="Dave K."The most annoying thing for me is the fans on twitter, Facebook and on here who moan about the club , the coach and the merger but don't attend and give the club the money that they need to compete with the likes of Leeds. I have no problem with the true fans like Jake, Mrs B and Wilf have a good old moan, but those who don't go or don't give the club money don't deserve this right.'"
I was a season ticket holder for 10 years until this season. I bought several shirts and other merchandise, and I started the season as a weekly attendee. That's pretty much all stopped now, does that mean I've forfeited my right to be unhappy about the club and voice this opinion? If so, why? Have I not paid enough dues to be a bit ticked off?
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| Quote The Dentist Wilf="The Dentist Wilf"I'll probably regret this post but in my opinion in answer to the initial poster I think that the Club are just trying to be realistic really, the cash just isn't coming in and it doesn't look like that is going to change anytime soon. Pearson is forking out week in week out while income must obviously be going down on a weekly basis too.
Adam Pearson said on Humberside that the merger is in his opinion good for youth development but went on to say when pressed that it is in some part to save money and added that if we don't buy season tickets and start attending games again it will be down to 'passing the buckets round' which I think is an incite into what they are thinking and how strapped for cash we are.
However for me they don't seem to get it because we have got things the wrong way round. The issue with everything to do with a professional sports Club is geared to how much the team inspires the fans and captures their imagination. That puts bums on seats and sells the shirts. That's why in other sports coaches get sacked and players have to move on.
I think myself that playing well, looking good and offering some HOPE is what brings people back but bumping along in mid to lower table as we do year in year out just sees people getting fed up with the same old and walking away. Where we are at this moment after two good wins and then a very, very poor display against a top team is a place we have been in time and again for years and years and its bloody soul destroying.
I'm not getting into coach or player bashing but the thing that is radically wrong is the product it's that which gives people some hope and at present ts that which is driving people away. There seems to be no improvement at all in that same old culture and mental approach, well there is little evidence in this seasons results that much is changing is there?
That trend has to be reversed and action to do that however unpalatable or costly in the short term has to be taken. To simply look at ways of making savings is a downward spiral and we have to give the fans that hope again that one day we will be a top Club again. However unlikely that aspiration is. Blind faith wares very thin after time.
That is the only thing that will make them start to come back to games and subscribe to season tickets. We had 20,000 at Wembley two years ago so there are potentially some 12,000 out there who are interested enough to travel down to London to watch the FC, we simply have to produce the product to get some of those back to games. However if they were sat at home on Thursday watching Sky then its going to be a long haul but that's the fault of the quality of the product rather than anything else at the Club. Why should they shell out over £20 to watch that? Just my view of course, we're all entitled to them.'"
Totally agree about the club not seeming to get it and having things the wrong way around. Obviously I can't speak for everyone, but I get a sense that what is doing for a lot of fans is simply the loss of hope. I have zero belief that things will get much better any time soon, and I do know that there are others like me. I wish that the club would try and re-engage with us and understand why we don't want to go any more, instead of just announcing another signing as if it will be a magic tonic or making veiled threats about the end of the club to bully us into buying tickets. I've never felt less like a fan and more like a consumer whose opinions don't count, only the colour of my money.
In s nutshell, it doesn't feel like my club any more, and that's what's killing it for me personally.
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| Quote The Dentist Wilf="The Dentist Wilf"Adam Pearson said on Humberside that the merger is in his opinion good for youth development but went on to say when pressed that it is in some part to save money and added that if we don't buy season tickets and start attending games again it will be down to 'passing the buckets round' which I think is an incite into what they are thinking and how strapped for cash we are.
However for me they don't seem to get it because we have got things the wrong way round. The issue with everything to do with a professional sports Club is geared to how much the team inspires the fans and captures their imagination. That puts bums on seats and sells the shirts. That's why in other sports coaches get sacked and players have to move on.'"
In the same interview he said that we had to start winning to bring the fans back, so I think he does 'get it'. He just has an odd idea about how to go about achieving that.
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| Quote Dave K.="Dave K."The most annoying thing for me is the fans on twitter, Facebook and on here who moan about the club , the coach and the merger but don't attend and give the club the money that they need to compete with the likes of Leeds. I have no problem with the true fans like Jake, Mrs B and Wilf have a good old moan, but those who don't go or don't give the club money don't deserve this right.'"
I hear this constantly from you Dave and i know who your directing it at.
The thing is like me there are thousands of FANS who still support Hull FC, still buy merchandise, still watch games on sky BUT are are no longer attending games because of years of bull performance, mis-management, , false promises, abject failure and cost. We all still take an interest in he club but are dismayed by the whole place and everytime we think were turning a corner and want to get back on the bike a Wigan last weeks performance arises.....or Wakefield away, Or Leeds at home, or Rovers at home going further back this season and then you think whoooaaa what was i thinking, i aint wasting a £100 on that.
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| Quote Dave K.="Dave K."The most annoying thing for me is the fans on twitter, Facebook and on here who moan about the club , the coach and the merger but don't attend and give the club the money that they need to compete with the likes of Leeds. I have no problem with the true fans like Jake, Mrs B and Wilf have a good old moan, but those who don't go or don't give the club money don't deserve this right.'"
And what would you say was the minimum amount of money someone has to spend before you magnanimously grant them the right to have an opinion?
Deary me. 
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| Quote easthull fc fan="easthull fc fan"If you can afford it you go it really is that simple, some people over scrutinise things on here, if your a die hard & have the finances you turn up, albeit it gets you mad from time to time, but it's in your blood from a young age.'"
Not any more
There's far more competition for people's money now.
The clubs in the entertainment industry and are charging top dollar to attend games
People will certainly be picking and choosing even more next season.
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| Quote Sebasteeno="Sebasteeno"I hear this constantly from you Dave and i know who your directing it at.
The thing is like me there are thousands of FANS who still support Hull FC, still buy merchandise, still watch games on sky BUT are are no longer attending games because of years of bull performance, mis-management, , false promises, abject failure and cost. We all still take an interest in he club but are dismayed by the whole place and everytime we think were turning a corner and want to get back on the bike a Wigan last weeks performance arises.....or Wakefield away, Or Leeds at home, or Rovers at home going further back this season and then you think whoooaaa what was i thinking, i aint wasting a £100 on that.'"
Then it's simple don't go, why stress yourself out moaning & complaining till your blue in the face, I'm not just on about you but any person that's not happy & doesn't enjoy the game/club no more, we never had these boards to post on 20 years plus ago, so what did we do then? We got on with it & turned up, AP is doing the best he can, we could have a complete new team/coaching staff there's nothing to say it would 100% change.
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| Quote easthull fc fan="easthull fc fan"The game itself has gone stale, 10-15 years ago it was all relatively new, summer rugby nice shirts decent grounds, marketing was good, fireworks, mascots, big signings were over here, people just don't want or can't afford to shell out ex-amounts of money to go watch something that doesn't entertain them no more. I love the club & the game it's my addiction. So have no choice.'"
I agree there's a game-wide problem. I actually think the sport is dying in this country. I think we could have held onto crowds better than most if our fan base wasn't so disillusioned, though.
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| Quote carl_spackler="carl_spackler"I agree there's a game-wide problem. I actually think the sport is dying in this country. I think we could have held onto crowds better than most if our fan base wasn't so disillusioned, though.'"
It's the case of if you do something that much it becomes stale & bores you, we do massively over scrutinise every move the club or players or staff do, it's like out of people moan/knock you start to believe it yourself.
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| I used to go to the games every week (180 mile round trip) until a year or so ago, then we started picking and choosing games...and this year I've mainly stuck to Sky and been to about 5 games I think...for me the excitement has completely gone. I used to be excited all week about the upcoming game and used to be proud to talk about supporting Hull...now I can't seem to get excited if we win and I'm not too fussed if we lose...apart from the embarrassment in front of my friends if it's a sky game!
For me, the ambition has gone from both the fans and the club. Recruitment wise, we seem to go for either average unknowns e.g Michaels, Talanoa, Rankin, Tumivave (could turn out to be good, but I'll admit I dont know anything of him), Byrne, Cusack, Maiava etc etc or marquee players / ageing players that are available at the right time..e.g Pryce, Long, Berrigan, Sing and Ellis to an extent. We seem to sign players based on the fact that they're available and trying to make them fit in the team, rather than planning a signing out. Compare our recruitment to Leeds, Wigan and Saints and think how few signings they make, but how well planned they are, e.g Cuthbertson, Galloway...as they know they're going to lose Peacock and Leuluai at the end of the season and so plan accordingly. We sign Tumivave and people don't know whether he will be a stand-off, winger or centre...and I'm not sure the club 100% do either! Once we sign these players, Hull fans being the proud bunch they are will defend each of the signings and say that they add something to the team, if half of our squad played for any other team....we wouldn't rate them as highly as we do.
I struggle to motivate myself to go to games, and when I do I've found them boring sadly...gone are the exciting days from 2003 - 2007 where we had the likes of Barnett, Swain, Best, Kearney, Blacklock etc, even Jamie Thackray, Carvell, Dowes and King used to really run at the line with power and take large run-ups, compare that now to a lot of our players who, whilst they graft and tackle...have lost the excitement factor, which is reflected in the declining attendances and cheering from the crowds.
Rugby league isn't cheap anymore, £23 to watch the game, along with £20 petrol, food and drinks, adds up to around £60 a time...which as people have said is a lot of money each week to go and be bored.
I would like to have the same level of interest as I did a few years ago, but with the pattern of two or three wins followed by two or three losses, endless spin from the club and constantly focusing on "next year" rather than focusing on now, I am finding it difficult to maintain my interest in Hull FC, and can't see it changing anytime soon. Feel free to call me not a true fan but they're just my feelings of the current situation!
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| Quote easthull fc fan="easthull fc fan"It's the case of if you do something that much it becomes stale & bores you, we do massively over scrutinise every move the club or players or staff do, it's like out of people moan/knock you start to believe it yourself.'"
Sorry, I've read that 3 times and I'm still not sure what you're saying & getting at.
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| Just needs re marketing from our clubs perspective to keep the ready to walk away fans to stay, our fans over scrutinise every thing that goes on, even the good things the club are trying to do, & if people call something constantly well others start to jump onboard.
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