I started off thinking it was mainly Fonua's fault but have been coming to the conclusion it is usually not that simple.



Saints second try, we just didn't have enough people there to counter Saint's attackers, in fact it wasn't even close.



Who would be responsible on the field for organising that?

RH side defence, LH side attack, speed of PTB, amount of penalties we give away, etc etc, ...

we could go on and on micro analysing.....

But surely, if that same team is at the top of the league then isn't that all that matters ?? ALL things considered that team are better than all the rest, and thats where we are now.



Where Radds believes we need improvement, I trust he and his coaching staff will carry on sorting it out and improving us.

You talk sense pal, we are in a good position right now eh.

It certainly needs improvement if we're going to have any chance of beating the NRL champions in the WCC

We should always be striving towards perfection, and we do seem to have shipped in a lot of sloppy tries down that right channel. I'm not too sure what the solution is, probably a mixture of poor reads by individuals and the defence getting sucked into the middle - plenty to improve on.



You don't win anything from peaking in May/June, as long as these things are ironed out by mid-August and we continue to gradually improve, happy days.

Where is the harm in discussing things like this when the team and coaching staff will certainly be aware of it and working to correct it? As long as the discussion is free of ranting and/or insults I really don't see the problem.



A forum can't be just happy-clapping any more than it can just be doom-mongering. Neither is healthy.

Dodgy is an understatement ! You can see teams targeting that side constantly.

Kevin Brown will be all over this area of the pitch so we'd better be getting it right on Friday.

That's what was in my mind when I first posted !

Fonua's defensive reads are terrible. His contact is very strong but poor anticipation. I also think with Manu inside him he can be quite lazy in the line. I'd try Gaz in the back row on right hand side inside Fonua if we're keeping him in the centre.

Saints 1st try was down to Naughton pushing in on Turner instead of sliding like Fonua and Carlos were doing in a 3 on 3 situation.



The 2nd try we just got our numbering up totally wrong leaving us with a 6 on 4 which is pretty much impossible to defend.



It improved in the second half because Carlos started defending at centre and Fonua was defending 3 in as well as Hadley coming on because Manu seemed to be struggling.

Absolutely correct Mr Frasier.