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| Quote Bal="Bal"Not sure I understand the Sure Broadband business model to be honest.
They seem to cover the same area Karoo has good connection speeds (generally for).
They are more expensive than Karoo, and offer similar speed.
You have to pay a significiant amount for installation of Sure, Karoo is free or alternatively a very large sum up front.
It doesn't replace your telephone line, which you still need to have or sign up to a VOIP service which would probably put your combined line rental at about the same as Karoo, but with the outlay I have set out above.
On top of this, KC is very likely about to start a roll out of fibre optic which will blow the speed of Sure Broadband out of the water.
I can see that it might be a good choice for a few people, mainly those in range of Sure but far from a telephone exchange, but enough to maintain a business? What am I missing?'"
Are you thinking of something else?
It's cheaper than Karoo. £15 for 30gb or 22.50 for unlimited. Speeds are faster ! Between 10-25mbps.
For VoIP I use sip gate. Free 01482 number and no line rental, only pay for calls (0.5p per minutes) incoming calls are free.
Also you can get free install at the minute if you pay your years subscription in advanced.
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| Quote joetwizzy="joetwizzy"Are you thinking of something else?
It's cheaper than Karoo. £15 for 30gb or 22.50 for unlimited. Speeds are faster ! Between 10-25mbps.
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It is more than that. I pay £17+ for 20gb, then you have to have a phone line @ around £15 mth.
Even the bundles are a ripp. £30 for and extra 10gb but an 18 mth contract
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| Quote Isaiah="Isaiah"It is more than that. I pay £17+ for 20gb, then you have to have a phone line @ around £15 mth.
Even the bundles are a ripp. £30 for and extra 10gb but an 18 mth contract'"
Im on about for sure broadband pal.
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| Mate of mine lives in the karoo fiber trial area, just had a cable put right into his house, and last night was getting 180Mbps.
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| Quote joetwizzy="joetwizzy"It's cheaper than Karoo. £15 for 30gb or 22.50 for unlimited. Speeds are faster ! Between 10-25mbps.
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As some people have posted on here, it is perfectly possible to get those speeds on Karoo as well. Its depends on local infrastructure. Sure, according to the map on their site cover similar areas, Hessle for example were connection speeds are generally speaking very good on Karoo. I get well over 12mb connection most of the time. Also the technlogy Sure are using is similar to the tech Karoo are using... lots of external factors can effect speed. I know a local installation of a similar system in Lancashire came in with a fanfare of offering up to 20mbp, in realtity most get 2 or 3.
This coupled with the fact that you have to sign a contract, or pay for the installation and that fibre optics are been rolled out offering far higher speeds than the tech that Sure are using can. I'm still not convienced of its appeal.
Quote joetwizzyFor VoIP I use sip gate. Free 01482 number and no line rental, only pay for calls (0.5p per minutes) incoming calls are free.'"
That is very intresting and yes, I agree, if you want to buy the equipment (phone etc) to use VOIP like most people use phone then it does make it a little more appealing.
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| Quote Bal="Bal"As some people have posted on here, it is perfectly possible to get those speeds on Karoo as well. Its depends on local infrastructure. Sure, according to the map on their site cover similar areas, Hessle for example were connection speeds are generally speaking very good on Karoo. I get well over 12mb connection most of the time. Also the technlogy Sure are using is similar to the tech Karoo are using... lots of external factors can effect speed. I know a local installation of a similar system in Lancashire came in with a fanfare of offering up to 20mbp, in realtity most get 2 or 3.
This coupled with the fact that you have to sign a contract, or pay for the installation and that fibre optics are been rolled out offering far higher speeds than the tech that Sure are using can. I'm still not convienced of its appeal.
That is very intresting and yes, I agree, if you want to buy the equipment (phone etc) to use VOIP like most people use phone then it does make it a little more appealing.'"
I use another provider nextgenus and get speeds up of upto 70mbs but average at around 40mps download and 25 upload during peak times
I paid £75 for installation and £25 p/m on a 30 day contract compared to 29.99 for broadband plus 13 for a landline i hardly used.
i bought a voip adaptor for £5 and got an 01482 number for free from connexion and can use this anywhere in the world using an app on my mobile and wifi making it great to phone family when out of country.
i was interested in karoo fibre optic but since moving i am more than happy and can't see me going back
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