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| Quote knockersbumpMKII="knockersbumpMKII"Problem with Pearson is he's a proper Jackyll & Hyde on top of the fact he's impatient and prone to making astonishingly carp decisions that make no logical sense both from both a business sense AND functionally at a playing/club level.
IF things don't turn around pretty sharpish I reckon he'll bail and want to sell up to cut his losses as we are so far behind everyone else at the moment it's an utter joke.
Under Gentle at least we were at the business end of things and despite all the rubbish about having a pack that was too mobile (utter garbage) we had a squad that did get to a final, that did win a play off game on top of the fact we'd had shocking injuries losing Holdsworth for two months or more as well as Horne who'd come into some very decent form.
We may even have done better had it not been for certain others around Gentle and yet it was Pearson whom winkled Gentle out instead of those that undermined him..THERE IS YOUR PROBLEM!
We are now further back than were we were under Agar quite frankly, at least with Agar you could trust the guy not to lie out of arris everytime he opened his mouth..but Pearson elected to pick an 'assistant' (i use that phrase in the loosest sense describing Radford) with no experience coaching/managing a professional outfit ever, with clearly not enough nouse about the game to figure out even the basics, with ZERO man management skills and based on this season not a fooking clue about anything.
Radford hasn't the balls to own up he's being found out and was never the man for the job and Pearson hasn't the balls to own up he's made a fecking pigs ear of things..[utwo bottleless s making our club a laughing stock.[/u
Frankly Pearson can do one as well..good riddance as he's too unbalanced to run this club'"
You should really say what you think.
Who would you have coaching us instead? (If you say Brian Smith I win the argument btw)
Who would you have owning us?
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| Quote Chris28="Chris28"Just got round to reading Murdock's article in the HDM and this stood out for me
"Instead, I believe the real problem lies in the thirst for immediate success. Rather than see long-term strategies put into place which will benefit the club for years to come, fans want success yesterday. Because fans by their very nature are fanatical about their club. They want success and they want it now"
And while we aren't responsible for poor on field performance or tinkering with the squad, I think that's spot on. Yes we should have kicked on from 2005/6 and should have done better last year, but if the club needs rebuilding as some seem to think, we need to lower our expectations. A lot.'"
murdock is spot on but then what he's said is obvious. The problem is if you back the wrong coach you end up being further away from where you need to be
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| Quote Chris28="Chris28"
Who would you have coaching us instead? (If you say Brian Smith I win the argument btw)
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What have people got against Brian Smith?
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| Quote davey37="davey37"What have people got against Brian Smith?'"
People see him as some kind of messiah, based on a couple of seasons with Hull in the late 80s, but he's won nothing of note in his career as far as I can tell. He's taken teams to finals and lost, and you could say the same about Peter Sharp and Peter Gentle, but people don't get misty eyed over them for some reason.
I've never met him and have nothing personal against him, but just don't see what he would offer.
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| Quote Chris28="Chris28"People see him as some kind of messiah, based on a couple of seasons with Hull in the late 80s, but he's won nothing of note in his career as far as I can tell. He's taken teams to finals and lost, and you could say the same about Peter Sharp and Peter Gentle, but people don't get misty eyed over them for some reason.
I've never met him and have nothing personal against him, but just don't see what he would offer.'"
Maybe so but he took our team of fairly average players and improved them (as a team) massively.
Similar to Daryll Powell and Cas to me.
If he had stuck around who knows but let's be honest there is only one trophy to win in Aus and it takes a special team to win it.
Not saying he would be the answer but it would be interesting to see if he could have the same impact as first time round.
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| He also built the crow's nest at the Boulevard which he's never had enough credit for.
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| Quote Chris28="Chris28"Just got round to reading Murdock's article in the HDM and this stood out for me
"Instead, I believe the real problem lies in the thirst for immediate success. Rather than see long-term strategies put into place which will benefit the club for years to come, fans want success yesterday. Because fans by their very nature are fanatical about their club. They want success and they want it now"
And while we aren't responsible for poor on field performance or tinkering with the squad, I think that's spot on. Yes we should have kicked on from 2005/6 and should have done better last year, but if the club needs rebuilding as some seem to think, we need to lower our expectations. A lot.'"
Personally I had what I thought were pretty low expectations. Murdoch, however, thinks we all expected a 4th placed finish (seriously - that's from his tweets) and only considers this season 'disappointing' when compared to that. Apparently languishing just above two basket-case clubs shouldn't be considered a poor perfromance if we had 'realistic' expectations. 
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| murdoch is running around trying to be everyone's mate to further his fledgling sports management business
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| Quote Kosh="Kosh"Personally I had what I thought were pretty low expectations. Murdoch, however, thinks we all expected a 4th placed finish (seriously - that's from his tweets) and only considers this season 'disappointing' when compared to that. Apparently languishing just above two basket-case clubs shouldn't be considered a poor perfromance if we had 'realistic' expectations.
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Well when you put it like that...
I guess I was optimistic but realistic too, although I did expect better. Losing to Wigan isn't a surprise. A 50 point drubbing is though and shows that we haven't progressed much, if at all this year.
Expectations haven't been managed by the club, and that for me is one of Pearson's failings.
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| For me, overall Pearson has done a good job. He got rid of Rule who was often accused of being a club apologist under Auntie Kath's reign. I realise that the Gleeson thing probably had more to do with him leaving but the point is that Pearson got rid. He also got rid of Agar and I don't think many people at the time were disappointed with that decision. His investments into the facilities at the club have been brilliant and something that was long overdue.
I think his lack of rugby knowledge has cost him at times. The Mcrae appointment, in hindsight, was a mistake but it was an understandable appointment given that he needed a rugby man in place to help run things. My verdict is still out on Motu Tony.
I think his impatience has let him down too. The appointment of Gentle was generally well received at the time and he did well enough that first year to earn a contract extension only to find himself sacked a year later. I think that was a big mistake on Pearson's part. He was doing a better job than Radford and was doing so from day one.
I'd also say his ambition has let him down. He's hyped up the club and our chances a lot and ultimately we've failed to deliver. He's certainly been more quiet on that front this year but looking back on last year in particular and the whole Bel13ve campaign and I find it somewhat cringeworthy now.
Finally I'd say his naivety has cost him a bit too. Things like the promise of two world class half back signings two years ago was poor. But I have no doubt that he genuinely thought it would be easy to get them.
So in summary, for me he's done some good things and he's done some bad things. I'd rather have AP than still be lumbered with Auntie Kath.
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| Quote Doc Brown="Doc Brown"For me, overall Pearson has done a good job. He got rid of Rule who was often accused of being a club apologist under Auntie Kath's reign. I realise that the Gleeson thing probably had more to do with him leaving but the point is that Pearson got rid. He also got rid of Agar and I don't think many people at the time were disappointed with that decision. His investments into the facilities at the club have been brilliant and something that was long overdue.
I think his lack of rugby knowledge has cost him at times. The Mcrae appointment, in hindsight, was a mistake but it was an understandable appointment given that he needed a rugby man in place to help run things. My verdict is still out on Motu Tony.
I think his impatience has let him down too. The appointment of Gentle was generally well received at the time and he did well enough that first year to earn a contract extension only to find himself sacked a year later. I think that was a big mistake on Pearson's part. He was doing a better job than Radford and was doing so from day one.
I'd also say his ambition has let him down. He's hyped up the club and our chances a lot and ultimately we've failed to deliver. He's certainly been more quiet on that front this year but looking back on last year in particular and the whole Bel13ve campaign and I find it somewhat cringeworthy now.
Finally I'd say his naivety has cost him a bit too. Things like the promise of two world class half back signings two years ago was poor. But I have no doubt that he genuinely thought it would be easy to get them.
So in summary, for me he's done some good things and he's done some bad things. I'd rather have AP than still be lumbered with Auntie Kath.'"
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| Quote Kosh="Kosh"Personally I had what I thought were pretty low expectations. Murdoch, however, thinks we all expected a 4th placed finish (seriously - that's from his tweets) and only considers this season 'disappointing' when compared to that. Apparently languishing just above two basket-case clubs shouldn't be considered a poor perfromance if we had 'realistic' expectations.
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I was very pessimistic and said 7-10 and even that looks like an optimistic expectation now.
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| I expected 6th-4th which was clearly well out. Biggest disappointment for me this year overall has been the pack who I thought would be fairly dominant but have held their own at best. Feka, Westy and Ellis apart I've been disappointed with them in general. Early-mid season we did get in field position to score points but I probably didn't factor in a complete shortage of skill behind the forwards - you can't expect to play SL with an abject kicking game and no tactical leader on the field.
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| Quote hullbg="hullbg"I was very pessimistic and said 7-10 and even that looks like an optimistic expectation now.'"
I was slightly more optimistic and had us down between 6th and 9th. Even with the squad we have that should have been achievable IMO.
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