An average front row, which is really poor considering what we've had over the years.

Compare this to Saints who'll have the best pack in the league next season no doubt.



LMS

Roby

Amor

Manu

Soliola

Wilkin



Masoe

Walmsley

Laffranchi

Jones/Hohaia

Why no doubt? They'll improve but they've only signed 2 players in the pack.

Because Masoe will go well over here imo and Amor showed how good he can be last season. There pack was already good, they've improved it. Even if it is just two players. The only pack who'll come close to them is Huddersfield.



I actually forgot about Huddersfield when I posted the first time, but I still think Saints will have the better pack.

My point was that you said Danny Tickle was [imuch[/i better in attack than Tuson, I said he wasn't, now you've just said neither of them are that good in attack. Which was what I'd thought, I never said Tuson was an attacking 2nd rower.



What's different in Tuson when compared to Westerman, Whiting and Pitts is the aggression that he puts into everything he does. Everything is 100% with a mean face, he won't take a step back. Aggression is something our pack lacks.

Dose any one think Johnson could have a go in the back row?

Masoe could easily revert to his old lazy self, his form only improved after he signed for saints. Don't get get me wrong they've got some talented players and a lot will depend on Walsh but I wouldn't say signing Amor and Masoe will propel them into champions.

You're going the wrong way with this. We need more props not more back rowers! Taking another prop off us won't help

Who would you drop?

Never said they would be champions and I know you never said I did either before you get that in



what is stopping them going the distance is their backs. Yeah there young and got some good talent such as Swift, Makinson and Percival. They just don't have that special 3/4 player, I'd even say we have two in Lineham and Crooks (or not far off it).



I just think Masoe will be more suited to the game over here, it's a shame they've banned the shoulder charge. He's annihilate players over here

Bowden hasn't shown as much promise as I'd hoped. I can't see us retaining him next year.



Tuson is an excellent signing though. Twice the player Mika will ever be.



We'll miss Tickle for his goal-kicking. He gives away too many penalties and I reckon his body will not stand up for 3 years at Widnes.

I would not signed Tuson move Johnson to back row sign a out n out prop.

I like Johnson I just don't see him as a prop think he is to slight. But runs hard good work rate good defender could be good back rower?

If he can keep the level of professionalism he has in his last few months will Penrith. I'm not overly fussed by LMS, Laffranci or Soliola tbh.