Hopefully JC is just being polite about Sao. We should not be keeping him, been poor/ill disciplined for 2 seasons and now injured for a 3rd season. Needed a good season to be considering a deal. Let him go, let someone else take the risk and get fresh faces in.

Hopefully JC is just being polite about Sao. We should not be keeping him, been poor/ill disciplined for 2 seasons and now injured for a 3rd season. Needed a good season to be considering a deal. Let him go, let someone else take the risk and get fresh faces in.

Sam Eseh has joined on loan until the end of the season.

Sam Eseh has joined on loan until the end of the season.

I don't think Eseh is good enough for Wigan's pack (certainly not at present), they're absolutely stacked in the forwards, so hopefully he goes really well for us and we could pursue the option of making it permanent. Though if they're losing Byrne next season they may be keen on keeping him

I don't think Eseh is good enough for Wigan's pack (certainly not at present), they're absolutely stacked in the forwards, so hopefully he goes really well for us and we could pursue the option of making it permanent. Though if they're losing Byrne next season they may be keen on keeping him

I don't mid Eseh and glad it is for the year, gives us the chance to have a look at him and could be  long term signing and replacement for Sao.

Would have been even better if we had got him and used the quota spot on another position.

Still concerns me that we will now have 6 props for the Leigh game and one backrower.

Feel like Knight isn't needed, but him signing might be more to do with the quality available rather than position.

Worries me the coaching staff keep playing Fash in the backrow.

I don't mid Eseh and glad it is for the year, gives us the chance to have a look at him and could be  long term signing and replacement for Sao.

Would have been even better if we had got him and used the quota spot on another position.

Still concerns me that we will now have 6 props for the Leigh game and one backrower.

Feel like Knight isn't needed, but him signing might be more to do with the quality available rather than position.

Worries me the coaching staff keep playing Fash in the backrow.

Seems the clubs plans on recruitment are based on the long term, so it could also be that they already have irons in the fire so to speak that cover the back row from 2026 onwards, which may make any interim signings more difficult unless they were loans.

Just highlights how poor our retention and recruitment has been over the last 5 years or so since the likes of Gaz, Mini & Sika retired, other than Manu Mau have we gone out and signed any real quality 2nd rowers since then? Being honest we took a punt on Savelio with his injury record and Jones the least said the better, we moved Griff to 2nd row and he out performed our 'seasoned' 2nd rowers before Smith pretty much dumped him.

Seems the clubs plans on recruitment are based on the long term, so it could also be that they already have irons in the fire so to speak that cover the back row from 2026 onwards, which may make any interim signings more difficult unless they were loans.

Just highlights how poor our retention and recruitment has been over the last 5 years or so since the likes of Gaz, Mini & Sika retired, other than Manu Mau have we gone out and signed any real quality 2nd rowers since then? Being honest we took a punt on Savelio with his injury record and Jones the least said the better, we moved Griff to 2nd row and he out performed our 'seasoned' 2nd rowers before Smith pretty much dumped him.

It's a no from me.  Can't get fit, disagreement with the coach over training and remember, never go back

It's a no from me.  Can't get fit, disagreement with the coach over training and remember, never go back

In an ideal world we could have signed Eseh and Watts to bolster our front row and used the quota spot on either a second row or a centre.

In an ideal world we could have signed Eseh and Watts to bolster our front row and used the quota spot on either a second row or a centre.

Each time he left a club he had issues with the coach at the time. 

Personally rather go with Knight and Eseh, if they go well then maybe look to tie them down long term. Whereas with Watts would we get more than a year out of him at this stage of his career? 

Each time he left a club he had issues with the coach at the time. 

Personally rather go with Knight and Eseh, if they go well then maybe look to tie them down long term. Whereas with Watts would we get more than a year out of him at this stage of his career? 

Can see the appeal as we still need size up front. But he's not what he was. I'd pass.

Wonder if Cartwright has seen enough of our depth options in thr middle already. Knight, Eseh and potentially Watts in a week

Can see the appeal as we still need size up front. But he's not what he was. I'd pass.

Wonder if Cartwright has seen enough of our depth options in thr middle already. Knight, Eseh and potentially Watts in a week

Never go back as they say. Watts is a shadow of the player that left us and his fitness from the watching Cas’ last 3 games looks very questionable. 

Had we used the quota spot to sign a quality back rower, I may have been swayed or at least understand some logic in entertaining the possibility of Watts in the interim but with Knight along Eseh on loan don’t see any reason to even contemplate Watts. 

Never go back as they say. Watts is a shadow of the player that left us and his fitness from the watching Cas’ last 3 games looks very questionable. 

Had we used the quota spot to sign a quality back rower, I may have been swayed or at least understand some logic in entertaining the possibility of Watts in the interim but with Knight along Eseh on loan don’t see any reason to even contemplate Watts.