You're wrong about pepe though. He is well respected on these boards. Don't get personal like that. You can refute without bringing it to a personal level, you come across better.

There were indeed 46 players on Barrow’s books. They had them in the squad section on Barrow's official website, with all their pictures and everything. It was a simple process to count them, so I did, and there was 46.



I wouldn’t like to see Barrow go into administration but, if Dessie Boy is willing to get them into that situation in the first place, by stuffing envelopes full of money and handing them to players to avoid the cap, then he should pay the price and do it for the RFL too. This sort of thing devalues the sport, and is so blatantly unfair to every other club in this league that it could have cost them fans and money too. The fact that you actually won the Grand Final makes the situation far worse. If I were a Halifax fan I would be fecking fuming at this news. A massive fine must follow, in order to prevent other chairmen from attempting the same thing. Barrow can then re-group and lick their wounds in Championship 1 and try to gain promotion, and glory, honestly this time.



I don’t actually agree with the salary cap as it stands but, while it’s here, I will take a very dim view of those clubs that dodge it. I don’t care if there is no precedent for handing the title to the cheated club – because that is what Halifax are – I believe they should be awarded the title for 2009. At the very least, Barrow should lose that title. If they don’t, it would set a terrible precedent. As we know, because of the Melbourne Storm, this does happen.



I don’t care if you think I’m bitter, I stand by everything that I have said. Your clubs’ chairman is a complete joke and a disgrace.

Anyone got an update on this or know when the RFL will go public?

Quite sure i've read somewhere that the hearing is 1st October, i could be wrong though.

I have spent quite a lot of time on the Barrow board and on the whole they are a good lot of people. They love their RL and have managed to scrape together very decent sums of money to try and improve their club and ground. It is a crying shame that this prat has been allowed to do this to them. Admittedly they have had their head in the sand over the last couple of years but then who wants to think the worst of their club? Having said that they are facing a charge of Gross Misconduct so this isn't just putting a + where you need to put a -.



This whole saga could have been made a little more palatable if for example, Barrow had gone to these lengths to try and kick start some sort of a revolution up there. If they had put in place measures after 2009 to try and entice fans from surrounding areas to the club in droves by slashing ticket prices and brightening up their ground. Instead they upped ticket prices and said to hell with the stadium. It was nothing more than one man's pursuit of self aggrandisement. So he could be personally presented with trophies.



Time to strip them of their 2009 title. I can't see them handing the title over to someone else and don't believe that they should.



Interestingly enough also. At the time I was fully empathetic towards their disappointment at not being in a position to be promoted, but what a complete injustice and travesty that would have been if a team that had so blatantly cheated had been awarded such a big prize over those that played by the rules.

I think it's the 3rd mate, which is this coming Monday.

I've heard the 3rd, but also the 6th - so who knows. All I know is that the last 3 weeks have been a nightmare for the Barrow faithful.

Chin up mate... you deserve better than this and at least you'll have a club to support out the back of this (hopefully with someone that can realise the potential of the club).

The last few weeks have had a "waiting to go to the gallows" kind of feel. I'll be glad when it's all over - no matter what the verdict. I guess you've had a similar situation when a certain Mr Vaughan bestowed himself upon Widnes (although he had plenty of 'previous' - ironically some of which was at Barrow AFC).



I think we'll be relegated at best. We've already lost Thackray, Blackwood, James and Knowles - arguably our best 4 performers in 2011. I haven't a clue who'll be pulling on the jersey next season - if we don't go out of business that is.

Build for the future and bounce back, weve had our differences but i would never wish anything bad on any club.



All the best

Barrow deducted 29 points and disco dessie banned for 8 years.



Thus barrow relegated, I feel for the fans, what a mess.

were a proud club. Now their loyal fans have been let down very badly.