I've seen him with my own 2 eyes necking pints down at Thatto Heath's clubhouse less than 2 hours before the kickoff of a cup quarter final while very firmly under Smith's stewardship matey...



He may very well have spent all day Saturday drinking carrot juice in the buildup to the game, but given that he seems to like to get a couple down before 2pm then I think it's a fair bet there'll have been a few in him by 7pm too...

If only we'd had Lomax last night instead

We feel your pain mate, let it out.

Correct! He's at thatto every week when possible a d certainly is a saints lad. I also think he's been doing a lee briers coaching school for kids.



Everyone knows lee likes a drink and he did hammer the booze when he had a personal tragedy to deal with it but by no means is not a true pro.



Saints legend Sean Long liked a fe beers as well but nothing said about that.

Fantastic player who would add something to any team in the world on his good days

The problem is that his good days very rarely coincide with days in which he's playing in a high pressure match. He went missing again for me last night, he just isn't a big game player.

That's why I said on his good days but to be honest he's done ok in the last few cc finals

Exactly, Long and Tommy Martyn did not live the lifestyle of teetotal monks did they?



The way people make out Briers to be like some sort of Gazza /George Best figure that gets wasted every week, how come he's kept his fitness and form for so long into his career? You don't do what he has done at his age, without being a great pro.



Of course I could be wrong and maybe Briers just looks good because he's carried by a world class side?

He has, but never really taken any of those games by the scruff of the neck as it were.



Big clubs that are expected to challenge need players that can step up to the plate in big matches, we had a number of players that could do it in the past, Leeds have 3 or 4 now. IMO had Wire had a big game player instead of him over the last few years they'd have won more.

From what I've been told (which you can take with a pinch of salt if you like, but I've no reason to disbelieve it) he changed his attitude when he realised Smith wasn't going to take any of his crap unlike Cullen.

Lee briers has been a fantastic player and still is, he's certainly not being carried by a world class side because your not one.



Lee Briers is the last of the old style scrum half. He's a player wiry a rugby brain and skill. Scrum halves are not like that anyone.

Briers may well be the most overrated player in Super League history. Can be great occasionally but so can Jarrod Sammut.



EDIT: Danny Brough is probably more overrated now, but not over the course of fifteen years.