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What - if anything do members of the forum think would be acceptable ways of taking the club forward in a sustainable way?



Assuming some of the management either read or contribute to the forum what do we think about:



1) The price of next season's (hope not tempting fate) tickets?

2) Emergency pledge of the season No 2, would you even contemplate making a further blind contibution, and if not what level of information would you think necessary to persuade you to contribute?

3) The opportunity to invest?

4) Is the club more important than the venue it plays at?

5) How do you persuade an extra 5000 to come through the gates for each game?

6) Which players should we endeavour to keep to build the future team around?



I think the majority of posters - though not always agreeing - only want to see the club survive and prosper

Don't panic.......I dropped Russell Crowe a tweet asking him to save us, so all sorted

I fear at the moment the only thing Russel is saving is a team consisting only of players named Burgess!



Apparantly he was not sure at first that this was a good idea, but the players agent persuaded him

If he wants to take over and field a team full of the Burgess boys at Odsal I for one would be a happy man...........

1) I think the price of tickets is clearly going to rise - probably steeply. Difficult one for the board, whoever is in charge, as attendances will obviously be affected by the rising prices.



2 & 3) Think these should be one and the same, to be honest and for me the answer is I most probably would, though I accept that many won't be in the position, or willing, to do so. It would also be helped if some sort of better example was being set by those in charge. The stupid child in a pram with a rattle stuff we're getting right now must end pronto, imo.



4) No brainer. No need to answer. Except that as things stand if we move away from Odsal our debts will increase substantially, not to mention that a move to VP would likely mean us paying the same as City, and they continually complain about how much it costs. Many seem to think the landlord would simply allow both clubs to split City's current rent, but why would they do that if they didn't have to?



5) Not a clue. We would need another Peter Deakin and they don't grow on trees, unfortunately. Will we be in the position of having the money to pay a marketing guru anyway. Or maybe we simply can't afford not to? Peter's template will still be around somewhere anyway...though I'm not convinced you can just do the same thing again, though much of it was aimed at kids and there are always a new lot of kids around so maybe this could be the exception which proves the rule?



6) Short answer is all of them, I guess. Truth is, most likely it won't be our decision. ATEOTD you can only get a fee for players wanted by another club and that will be their decision not ours. Beggars can't be choosers, if we need the cash urgently enough and there is no other way of sourcing it, off they will go.

1) £120 rising to £140 the following season



2) Not a snowball in hell's chance



3) No - an empty gesture if its small scale, a barrier to a serious investor if its large scale



4) Yes, but not convinced that the ground is the problem



5) Will only happen if we unearth another generation of players like the golden era but at modest cost. In the short term we need to learn to survive on modest gates



6) None, if the price of keeping them is insolvency

Just a question why do you need another 5000 fans???



Surely the same 10k fans paying proper season ticket prices rather than slashed ticket prices will create the revenue needed. I think 10k fans is the commonly held number quoted for a break even on finances at a SL club. Obviously there will be degrees of up and down on this according to costs at each club, but you would imagine most clubs have a similar set of expenditures, given the salary cap limits player wages and that in essense the rest of the staff should be pretty similar, ie coach, conditioner etc.



I can't recall the cost of a saints adult season ticket just now, but I think the cheapest option was pushing £200. What was the cheapest adult season ticket for Bradford this year? When you add the difference per ticket then I imagine that would make quite a difference to revenues.

Agree entirely to all, except expect higher ticket prices than that.



Caisley absolutely panned the people of Bradford in 2005 for not turning out to support the club in big enough numbers. That is the crux of all our problems. He failed to persuade the people then, when we were at the top and the economy was in a boom. I wonder how he intends to persuade them now? I think your point 5 sums it up!

Why another 5000, a few points:

1) Without a sugar daddy we need a bigger gate to be competitive.

2) More through the gates attracts more sponsors.

3) Linked to my first point more fans means you can keep the ticket prices down.

4) Not likely a SL licence would be denied a team with gates over 15000



Medium term the biggest issue for the club and no easy answers though a good team certainly helps

Wednesday is D day

The Bradford bulls flag will be flying at half mask

Caisley will again finish us "but wait a minute he's so insistent that Peter hoods mess left him no option but to go into administration" blah blah blah stop speeling the lies you crock!

Interesting claim. Any source for Wednesday being d day?

Your man bowling bull said friday (gone) or Wednesday after bank holiday. Friday has gone so I'm assuming Wednesday??? See post titled administration.

Who knows with all this arguing

Makes our club look like its run by a load of right tools tho!