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| My question....What do you charge charities for players turning up to charitable events? If so ,what charties have you charged?and how much? Have you borrowed money of the Salford charitable foundation?If so how much?Do you feel that children in need is a better cause than yours?
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| Quote Man in Madrid="Man in Madrid"icon_biggrin.gif Well, after working in a fairly senior role at Tesco for the last 4 years, I can pretty much say that I'm certainly not treated like sh**e! I enjoy an industry-leading, award winning pension scheme, staff discount, free shares, save as you earn shares, buy as you earn shares, free life insurance: the list goes on. NB. these are available to ALL staff, by the way. Don't forget, Tesco employs more than 295k staff in the UK, (largest private sector employer in Europe, I believe) and more than 500k worldwide - it's pretty difficult to satisfy all those people all of the time.'"
I guess you've had a different experience to everyone else I've heard from, then. Which is good. For you, obviously.
Quote Man in Madrid="Man in Madrid"In relation to workfare, Tesco weren't the only retailer involved, (Sainsburys?) and I recall that we confirmed that anyone taking up a placement would be taken on permanently if they did a good job: don't see what the problem with that is?? '"
The scheme allowed companies to take on staff without paying them in the guise of work experience and CV building. So rather than giving people who were out of work the chance to do a paid job, even if only temporarily, they were asked to work for free instead. All of this on a scheme which was found, when reviewed, to no provide any improved chance of finding work after you'd been through it.
But, we're digressing, this is a completely different thread topic altogether. Hopefully come tonight we'll have more positive things to talk about.
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| Quote mitie mouse="mitie mouse"My question....What do you charge charities for players turning up to charitable events? If so ,what charties have you charged?and how much? Have you borrowed money of the Salford charitable foundation?If so how much?Do you feel that children in need is a better cause than yours?'"
I will be at the meeting and I will eagerly await you asking your one question that is split into several parts.Bye the way what is a chartie?
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| I'd stay away from tonight's Q & A's if I was you MM. Forget the Dragons den type crowd in attendance because the realists already know this meeting is a farce, tonight's crowd will be like the pied pipers followers dancing to his latest tune of spin with possibly the main event being a 3rd 5 year plan in six month. A chance to paper over his cracks with Michegan Red spinning on his back doing a windmill.
This meeting has only come about because the Salford Star put a spanner in the works of the councils secret bailout plan meaning the spin doctor Wilkinson now has to face the music. The beach boys heads will be back in the sand by 19:05pm tonight.
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| Quote Philyourboots="Philyourboots"I'd stay away from tonight's Q & A's if I was you MM. Forget the Dragons den type crowd in attendance because the realists already know this meeting is a farce, tonight's crowd will be like the pied pipers followers dancing to his latest tune of spin with possibly the main event being a 3rd 5 year plan in six month. A chance to paper over his cracks with Michegan Red spinning on his back doing a windmill.'"
Actually, most people I know are going along to constructively question the club about the current situation, find out the level of sh*te we are actually in and try to help find a way forward. Can't do that if you're just going with the intention of calling everyone c*nts. Similarly, if you're just going to laud Wilky and not be open to any criticism then you're not going to help either.
Middle ground, healthy debate and questioning. It's a shame it doesn't happen on here more often.
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| Quote GT="GT"Actually, most people I know are going along to constructively question the club about the current situation, find out the level of sh*te we are actually in and try to help find a way forward. Can't do that if you're just going with the intention of calling everyone c*nts. Similarly,'"
Ha ha Do you actually think he's going to listen, you're more deluded than I thought. He's only going to get you lot to start eating out of his palms again.
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| Quote Philyourboots="Philyourboots"Ha ha Do you actually think he's going to listen, you're more deluded than I thought. He's only going to get you lot to start eating out of his palms again.'"
Are you going or not pal, out of curiosity?
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| Quote GT="GT"
Middle ground, healthy debate and questioning. It's a shame it doesn't happen on here more often.'"
I'll be surprised if that actually happens tonight GT. They'll be the usual crew who hang onto every word John says and believe it with a passion, (look where that has gotten us!?), they'll be the sceptics who'll just listen but have been told not to rock the boat so won't say a thing, then they'll be the realist who will walk away totally dismayed that they've heard it all before!
I don't believe in the slightest that anyone will get answers tonight? Sure you're going to hear that the captain is back at the helm, he'll put a great spin on a desperate situation, he'll tell you that as long as we're all pulling in his direction we'll be fine. Nothing wrong with that so long as past mistakes have been learnt, however, I also think many attending will believe we're still on the same path as the Titanic.
Middle ground, healthy debate and questioning.? I'm not so sure mate, probably more of a lecture on how things have been and how things are going to be and a good old brow beating to anyone who thinks otherwise.
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| Definately not I couldn't put myself through more lies and spin...
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| Quote Philyourboots="Philyourboots"Ha ha Do you actually think he's going to listen, you're more deluded than I thought. He's only going to get you lot to start eating out of his palms again.'"
Who eats out of his palms? I think you're confusing me with someone else. Then again, I've also been accused of having an anti-club agenda on here before now so thanks for proving the point I'm making about the lack of constructive debates from both sides of the camp.
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| Quote The Black Cat="The Black Cat"I'll be surprised if that actually happens tonight GT. They'll be the usual crew who hang onto every word John says and believe it with a passion, (look where that has gotten us!?), they'll be the sceptics who'll just listen but have been told not to rock the boat so won't say a thing, then they'll be the realist who will walk away totally dismayed that they've heard it all before!
I don't believe in the slightest that anyone will get answers tonight? Sure you're going to hear that the captain is back at the helm, he'll put a great spin on a desperate situation, he'll tell you that as long as we're all pulling in his direction we'll be fine. Nothing wrong with that so long as past mistakes have been learnt, however, I also think many attending will believe we're still on the same path as the Titanic.
Middle ground, healthy debate and questioning.? I'm not so sure mate, probably more of a lecture on how things have been and how things are going to be and a good old brow beating to anyone who thinks otherwise.'"
Unfortunately, you might be right. If the debating techniques on here are anything to go by it'll turn into a bunfight between the "everything's sh*t and you all want sacking" brigade and the "we're well run on a shoe string, you can't blame anyone at the club" brigade.
No doubt I'll get accused of being on both sides. Again.
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| Quote Philyourboots="Philyourboots"I'd stay away from tonight's Q & A's if I was you MM. Forget the Dragons den type crowd in attendance because the realists already know this meeting is a farce, tonight's crowd will be like the pied pipers followers dancing to his latest tune of spin with possibly the main event being a 3rd 5 year plan in six month. A chance to paper over his cracks with Michegan Red spinning on his back doing a windmill.
This meeting has only come about because the Salford Star put a spanner in the works of the councils secret bailout plan meaning the spin doctor Wilkinson now has to face the music. The beach boys heads will be back in the sand by 19:05pm tonight.'"
Another add to the foes list.
Most of the people I know who are attending are doing so with valid salient questions to pose to the members of the board in question, they will ask in a reasoned manner not in the accusatory tone the members of the spasticity gang continually do on here.
Do you not think it is time to not have sides, cliques or chips on our shoulders? It would be much more productive if people saw the bigger picture for once?.
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