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| Quote pondmonster="pondmonster"I have to agree with giraffe. It's all too easy to overrate your own players as you see them perform week in week out without anyone from the media hyping them up. They may turn in consistent performances and the odd blinder, but who's to say other players aren't doing that all around the league away from the spotlight.
I think we could all say 'I wouldn't swap 'xyz' for anyone' because you see the willingness to perform, the effort and pride in the jersey, but if you asked neutrals to pick a dream team (different thing) then not all would be from Wigan or any one club.
Having said that on current form, in my opinion I reckon we would have a fair smattering of players in the dream team - Tomkins, Hock, Finch, and barring injury Mossup for example?'"
Cant disagree with anything you've said there mate. Those 4 would definitely be in with a shout if I was naming a 17 from this year so far.
Nice to see someone can see where I'm coming from anyway. Perhaps you have put it slightly more diplomatically than I did earlier!
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| I didn't necessarily mean "pick a team of superstars" and I apolagise if that's what you go from my OP. What I was getting at was in Wigan fans eyes... Who would you swap!? Who could you bare to let go? Quite frankly even though I think Atkins, Watkins are probably better centres, I wouldn't be able to let go of Goulding given his current form and what he has brought to the team this year.
Preccy is another, fully fit and in full stride there aren't many (if any) that run it in harder and more committed than him. Seen him put a fair few big men on their backside returning kick off's over the last few seasons!
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| Quote pondmonster="pondmonster"I have to agree with giraffe. It's all too easy to overrate your own players as you see them perform week in week out without anyone from the media hyping them up. They may turn in consistent performances and the odd blinder, but who's to say other players aren't doing that all around the league away from the spotlight.
I think we could all say 'I wouldn't swap 'xyz' for anyone' because you see the willingness to perform, the effort and pride in the jersey, but if you asked neutrals to pick a dream team (different thing) then not all would be from Wigan or any one club.
Having said that on current form, in my opinion=#FF0000 I reckon we would have a fair smattering of players in the dream team - Tomkins, Hock, Finch, and barring injury Mossup for example?'"
Add Jeff Lima to that list, he's been superb all this season, making more metres than any other prop.
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| Quote The Yellow Giraffe="The Yellow Giraffe"That opening post is one of the most blinkered,biased posts I've ever seen.
Firstly, this is not me having a pop just because its Wigan. So if anyone wants to try and start a pathetic "my dad's bigger than your dad" argument then you're wasting your time.
However, to sugest that Goulding and Prescott are in the top 2 of their respective positions in the entire Super League is nothing short of ridiculous.
I know we all love our own team and love our players, but what is the point in a topic like this if you are going to be so deluded???'"
The OP didn't ask who was the best ! he asked who would YOU swap !!!!!
again you come on here reading between the lines and replying to something that wasn't there.
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| Another example of what I meant would be... How many times do you see Harrison Hansen mentioned for "the Dream Team" or see his name in a BBC match review title? You don't but that guy nails his colours to the mast every week and bleeds Cherry & White. So neutrals, other fans, name a better second rower than Hansen? You will no doubt name a few! But find a Wigan fan who would swap HH for anyone? Not as easy I can assure you that! 
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| Give me....
Hall on a wing.
Atkins at centre.
Monaghan at hooker (prefer creativity to 40 tackles a game, the team should share the workload unlike saints)
Ben Westwood for the bench.
Puletua for prop.
Roby off the bench as hooker.
That is the only way you would improve this current team with super league players. I wouldn't want anyone else personally. Finch and Leuluai are a great partnership. Our pack has not been dominated all year and our outside backs are taking great advantage.
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| Quote TheSurgeon="TheSurgeon"The OP didn't ask who was the best ! he asked who would YOU swap !!!!!
again you come on here reading between the lines and replying to something that wasn't there.'"
Well surely if somebody was better, then you'd swap them. The two things are obviously very closely linked. So he may not have used the words "is anyone better than our players" but the insinuation is there that that is what he was asking.
You need to chill out and out your dummy back in.
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| Quote The Yellow Giraffe="The Yellow Giraffe"Well surely [uif somebody was better, then you'd swap them.[/u The two things are obviously very closely linked. So he may not have used the words "is anyone better than our players" but the insinuation is there that that is what he was asking.
You need to chill out and out your dummy back in.'"
Not the case at all, see Harrison Hansen post on previous page.
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| Quote Rogues Gallery="Rogues Gallery"Add Jeff Lima to that list, he's been superb all this season, making more metres than any other prop.'"
Too true, that's why I said 'for example'.
The one thing that I always notice about Lima is that he very, very rarely gets turtled. He always lands on his front when tackled and achieves a quick PTB.
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| Quote The Yellow Giraffe="The Yellow Giraffe"Well surely if somebody was better, then you'd swap them. The two things are obviously very closely linked. So he may not have used the words "is anyone better than our players" but the insinuation is there that that is what he was asking.
You need to chill out and out your dummy back in.'"
Did you accuse someone of dummy spitting!!!!! PMSL
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| Quote Wigan Peer="Wigan Peer"Did you accuse someone of dummy spitting!!!!! PMSL'"
I sure did. Shouldn't there be a question mark after that though?
And can you please point out where I have "spat my dummy out?" Thanks.
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| Quote Nnibly_Warrior="Nnibly_Warrior"Not the case at all, see Harrison Hansen post on previous page.'"
Fair enough mate, I completely understand what you mean.
However from the original post I took it as meaning what would be the best 17 you could name. I obviously misunderstood slightly.
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