Me and the old man were having a debate the other night and I wondered what the rest of you might think... If you could have your pick of the bunch (salary cap ignored) would you actually swap many of the current team? If so, for who?



Here was mine and me Dad's after about 45 mins of debate and argument!



1. Tomkins - No one

2. Charnley - No one

3. Goulding - Possibly Watkins but after discussion, would stick with Fuzzy

4. Carmont - Atkins (only this year, before hand Carmont all the way)

5. Richards - Hall

6. Finch - No one

7. Leuluai - Dureau, Brough (on the basis, we both feel Tommy isn't a 7)

8. Prescott - (even with, not better than) a handful of others

9. McIllorum - Leuluai / Roby (but would still want Mickey in the side)

10. Mossop (barring injury) No one

11. Hansen - No one

12. Hock - No one

13. O'Loughlin - No one



14. Jeff Lima - No one

15. Liam Farrell - Jamie Jones Buchanan (but only 50-50)

16. Epalahame Lauaki - Tony Puletua

17. Ben Flower - Larne Patrick



So came to the conclusion that we'd find it incredibly hard to give up any of our starting 13, only the bench we would change, but even then, perfectly happy with what we have. Apart from Lauaki who we both agree is another Feka with a worse temperament.



How would you line up???

I'd find it very difficult not to find a place for Benny Westwood. I'd also be interested to see how Tom Briscoe would go in a top team.

if westwood and hock played in the same team it would be chaos for any team trying to defend against them but also piggy backs penaltys all the way up the field.

Sad to see Pat getting the boot, but it does seem as if age and injuries have caught up with him this year.



I'm not sure about Hall. A strong finisher for sure, but I can't help but remember Charnley scooting past him twice a few weeks ago. Plus, would he have scored that last try that Briscoe scored?



I think I'd opt for Briscoe.

Tom Briscoe, Atkins and Hall would thrive in our team...



and Leuluai isnt in the top 3 halves in superleague

Pat Richards for Patrick Ah Van

Fielden for Griffin

Tommy for Sammut



that'll ding dang do for me

I'd swap everyone for Patrick Ah Van.

That opening post is one of the most blinkered,biased posts I've ever seen.



Firstly, this is not me having a pop just because its Wigan. So if anyone wants to try and start a pathetic "my dad's bigger than your dad" argument then you're wasting your time.



However, to sugest that Goulding and Prescott are in the top 2 of their respective positions in the entire Super League is nothing short of ridiculous.

I know we all love our own team and love our players, but what is the point in a topic like this if you are going to be so deluded???

Over the last 4 games i doubt that any centre has been as good as Goulding. Then again i take it you have not watched much of him over that time. Same for Prescott he is becoming a very good prop. But unlike virtually and SL side if any of our props form drops he will get dropped. We got better props missing out than some teams in SL have in their 17 week in week out.

4 games does not make a player one of the top 2 centres in the league. Atkins, Watkins, Hardaker, Yeaman, Welham, Wardle, Cudjoe, Millard would all be in front of Goulding.



Chris Flannery has played well for us the last 3 games, but I wouldn't be so biased as to name a theoretical ideal 17 with him in it. He probably wouldn't get in my first 10 teams that I could name.



Its a pointless thread if you are going to be so blinkered.

Welham wouldn't be infront of anyone for starters. He was awful against us the other day and was comfortably in Goulding's pocket. He was massively overhyped last season for scoring a few tries, despite being one of the worst defenders in the league and having glue-hands. On form out of that list I'd only have Atkins, Watkins and possibly Millard over Goulding. That's not being blinkered, Daz has genuinely been one of our top performers this season and there definitely haven't been 8 centres better than him in SL.

Ok we'll agree on somwehere betwwen 4 and 8 that are better then. Either way, I'm sure the honest Wigan fans amongst you wouldn't name him in a 'dream team.'